degening being excluded.
but what could be a actually good energy sufficient build?
EDIT* also who isnt getting the update? i know im not until im forced out of the game
Ok so the nerf of SF brings us to think about new builds for it then
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degen sucks. it always has. youll still be able to do more damage with splinter or something.
well if you actually think logically, graspings and mindblades have pretty low Hp to begin with
Also, maybe we are gonna have to become dual farmers? sucks but... better then smites anyways
Also, maybe we are gonna have to become dual farmers? sucks but... better then smites anyways
I just ran it with this build to see the UW changes. Got 2 ecto
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I just spammed Lava Font and Flame Djinn's Haste. They died a bit slower, but not much. I think the big Nerf is there are 4 less groups.
Hmm maybe next run I'll bring glyph of immolation (does it work with font?). oh yeah the last 2 skills are totally optional, I'm sure you could sub whatever you want in there...
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I just spammed Lava Font and Flame Djinn's Haste. They died a bit slower, but not much. I think the big Nerf is there are 4 less groups.
Hmm maybe next run I'll bring glyph of immolation (does it work with font?). oh yeah the last 2 skills are totally optional, I'm sure you could sub whatever you want in there...
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SF can still do plains with burning speed (well dream riders and blades), ObF can probably do smites, plains and pools. Interesting to see which is more viable. ObF for all 3 may go back to bed of coals and meteor shower, with sliver and ward of stability for pools.
Still the sin fire build will prolly win out for efficiency and silly ease of use still. I guess SF ecto farming will stay the same as 3 less groups and 10 extra minutes is only nerfing it to 1/3 efficiency. Still very easy fast and easy ecto cf other methods.
I actually preferred the days of ObF ecto farming...more living on the edge
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Still the sin fire build will prolly win out for efficiency and silly ease of use still. I guess SF ecto farming will stay the same as 3 less groups and 10 extra minutes is only nerfing it to 1/3 efficiency. Still very easy fast and easy ecto cf other methods.
I actually preferred the days of ObF ecto farming...more living on the edge
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why degen?
you can still use lava font and it'll kill faster than degen imo.
just don't MoR with your sub50 hp or you'll die from hexbreaker. Why not degen + damage? Frigid Armor + Burning Speed + Lava Font works like charm. Just watch your energy and don't overdamage them. And don't cast Burning Speed without Frigid Armor
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you can still use lava font and it'll kill faster than degen imo.
just don't MoR with your sub50 hp or you'll die from hexbreaker. Why not degen + damage? Frigid Armor + Burning Speed + Lava Font works like charm. Just watch your energy and don't overdamage them. And don't cast Burning Speed without Frigid Armor
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Jagged Strike+Signet of Infection+Ether Nightmare mayhaps?
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Originally Posted by mistokibbles
Jagged, Black spider,ether nghtmare..some other skills and epidemic?
Ether nightmare+Hexbreaker=dead player
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Naw, we just give up, I used the sliver build to farm greens for my heroes. It is now just plain useless.
Seriously I think we get the picture, you don't need to QQ in every thread about your greens >_>
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Why not degen + damage? Frigid Armor + Burning Speed + Lava Font works like charm. Just watch your energy and don't overdamage them. And don't cast Burning Speed without Frigid Armor
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Originally Posted by DeviantTeknique
I tried this, smites spam mend condition on each other 
Wow I never noticed Smites had this... lol
I think it could work with [Radiation Field] though... -6 degen for 5 seconds every 14 seconds = 60 damage every 14 seconds. Smites don't get disease (I don't think) and they have 0 DF in normal mode so they can't heal themselves.
However, whether it's worth it or not....
Wow I never noticed Smites had this... lolI think it could work with [Radiation Field] though... -6 degen for 5 seconds every 14 seconds = 60 damage every 14 seconds. Smites don't get disease (I don't think) and they have 0 DF in normal mode so they can't heal themselves.
However, whether it's worth it or not....
could work as long as you can survive the initial bursts of damage from zealots, degen doesn't trigger reversal or divine intervention (right?) so the only heals they would get would be from divine favor.
Heres the problem I see (w/o trying ofc)
It would take a while (like 10ish casts to kill a smite) so to make it worthwhile you'd need to gather em all up as best as possible. Unless you aggro the coldfires as well, have to do em separate, coldfires will damage the smites and make em heal themselves and I'm not sure how SF interacts with something like maelstrom if it's cast next to you but they do have PBAoE frozen burst which does break SF (right?).
So from what I know about smite runs you clear the smites with at best in 4-5 groups (2 on the right side, 2-3 on the left?) 10 casts of a 12 recharge skill 4 times? might be a bit to long, likely better to share runs with a VwK?
Heres the problem I see (w/o trying ofc)
It would take a while (like 10ish casts to kill a smite) so to make it worthwhile you'd need to gather em all up as best as possible. Unless you aggro the coldfires as well, have to do em separate, coldfires will damage the smites and make em heal themselves and I'm not sure how SF interacts with something like maelstrom if it's cast next to you but they do have PBAoE frozen burst which does break SF (right?).
So from what I know about smite runs you clear the smites with at best in 4-5 groups (2 on the right side, 2-3 on the left?) 10 casts of a 12 recharge skill 4 times? might be a bit to long, likely better to share runs with a VwK?
