Defeating your Doppleganger in Hard Mode with an E/Me

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Symbiont
Ascalonian Squire
• #1
This build will defeat your Doppleganger in Hard Mode in under a minute, guaranteed.

Water Magic: 16
Domination Magic: 12
Energy Storage: All leftover points in here

Weapon(s): Any staff with an "Enchantments last 20% longer" mod will be fine, but not necessary.

Armor: Max of course (60 AL) and any runes and insignia of your choice, it doesn't really matter, but a few Blessed Insignia could help reduce damage (if any).

Skills: Mist form, Empathy

Usage: As soon as the battle begins cast Mist Form, followed by Empathy, and watch on as your doppleganger commits suicide, remember not to attack otherwise you will also be affected by empathy, just stand there and cast your skills again whenever they're recharged.

*Note: I'd just like to clarify that I came up with this build myself, although I wouldn't be surprised if I wasn't the first person to think of it but by no means does that mean I copied or stole it from another source, so if it is already out there somewhere on the internet then that has nothing to do with me, and I didn't seem to find it on these forums so I though I would share it.
GaaaaaH
GaaaaaH
Krytan Explorer
• #2
would sliver armor speed up the process (even at 3 earth)? considering that you do not attack.
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Improvavel
Desert Nomad
• #3
U might as well be a E/N and use [[price of failure] and [[insidious parasite]
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Symbiont
Ascalonian Squire
• #4
This is just what I used, but of course Silver Armor and anything else like it can be used too, the sky is the limit for variations I guess, but you can't get easier than only having to use 2 skills.

Quote: Originally Posted by Improvavel
U might as well be a E/N and use [[price of failure] and [[insidious parasite] If any E/N characters want to try that then sure, but I've always been E/Me.

Perhaps the thread can be changed to include all E/? builds that work for this mission in HM.
Spider Pig
Spider Pig
Academy Page
• #5
You can also take [[pain inverter], he won't use it against you.
Luminarus
Luminarus
Furnace Stoker
• #6
Do you "hit" with mist form up? Even if you do, wouldnt empathy do the same amount of damage?

EDIT: Spider, he does 0 damage due to mist form... PI would result in nothing but a wasted 10 energy.
Akaraxle
Akaraxle
Wilds Pathfinder
• #7
Back then (2005) I just Maelstrom'd him and proceeded to Ice Spear spam him to death. Doesn't it still work?
DarkGanni
DarkGanni
Forge Runner
• #8
[Glyph of sacrifice] before triggering cutscene followed by a [meteor shower] next [rodgort's invocation] and [liquid flame] and finish off with an [immolate] and he should be dead
GaaaaaH
GaaaaaH
Krytan Explorer
• #9
there was some aoe change on doppelganger, so it might not.
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frandrew1026
Ascalonian Squire
• #10
E/Me eh? Use Blinding Flash and Empathy. He should go down in no time.
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Symbiont
Ascalonian Squire
• #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Luminarus
Do you "hit" with mist form up? Even if you do, wouldnt empathy do the same amount of damage?

EDIT: Spider, he does 0 damage due to mist form... PI would result in nothing but a wasted 10 energy. If by hit you mean attack, then no, just stand there and maintain spells. If you didn't mean that, then I'm not quite sure what you're asking
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Damian979
Krytan Explorer
• #12
X/me: backfire and any 4-5 self buff spells that you won't be casting anyway
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Tyla
Emo Goth Italics
• #13
All attunement skills, Mark of Rodgort and MS, Flare.

PEWPEW

And Backfire + random skills should do it easier.
angmar_nite
angmar_nite
Jungle Guide
• #14
Blinding flash, dual attunement, empathy.
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Keyser Soze
Ascalonian Squire
• #15
i found it easy just to use [thunderclap] and a shocking bow, he couldn't do anything for 20 secs, and died. that was with 16 air, 12 Marksmanship
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acerbity
Frost Gate Guardian
• #16
Just used the green farmer build. Should be even easier now with the buff to Shadow Form.
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oracle.delphi
Frost Gate Guardian
• #17
or you could equip mantras backfire and empathy.. use backfire and empathy..ala wiki i believe
also works on primary mesmer
takes like 20 secs they use all the mantras cause the dopple is DUMB and backfire nails em on each one then they hit u activating empathy..if they are still alive
The forth fly
The forth fly
Krytan Explorer
• #18
use the old 6 second troll farming build i did the dopple in 8 seconds in HM
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the ruloes
Academy Page
• #19
Did this as a Mo/Me, although I only used the mesmer secondary, so meh:

[signet of midnight] [empathy] [clumsiness] [wandering eye] [signet of clumsiness]

12 domination and 12 illusion.

Might bring along [glyph of lesser energy], seeing as you're an elementalist, and energy can get tough on that bar.
Shyft the Pyro
Shyft the Pyro
Wilds Pathfinder
• #20
I used /R for the good old trick - spirits. He still casts all equipped spirits in HM, so my level 5 pet crab got itself a nicely cooked meal, due to Mark of TROGDOR + Mind Blast