Paragon Heroes and their use

I've been having trouble finding a good Paragon Hero use. Now, I don't have a large amount of paragon skills or any Elites unlocked for them, so that might be part of it, but where do you find Paragon Heroes are usefull, and any useful builds?

(and yes, I'm familiar with the 3 Paragon team requiring you to be a paragon, I mean outside of that).

You can run the 3 paragon team minus the player if you play a profession that can keep SY up, otherwise that won't work.

It really depends on your bar and the other Heroes and Henchies you're running. Pick skills that will synergise or augment their skillbars eg [[they're on fire] with [[searing flames], [[lyric of zeal] with [[signet of rejuvenation] or [[signet of removal], [[aria of zeal] / [[hexbreaker aria] / [[defensive anthem] to support casters...you get the picture.

I've run Rac's build successfully with other X/W toons, it's a solid starting point for any physical build.

My 2 heaviest use characters are a Monk and a Mesmer, if that helps.

Like I said, I'm talking besides Rac's build. Do you need 2 in general? Will only 1 be an effective physical?

Andy why is Hexbreaker Aria a Leadership skill if specing in it doesn't change anything? Shouldn't it be unassigned?

I guess I'd like good builds for Physical support, caster support, etc. I just haven't found one that seems to work well for me, though it's possable it's just my lack of skills for a Paragon. The things that work for the paragon I play involve more thought than the hero paragons do. (I used to keep up [Mending Refrain] with my Paragon constantly before the nerf to 15 sec duration, but I haven't gotten her off Istani yet.)

I always used Sabs 3 necros, but now Ive switched in a couple of megaruned paragons to bump up the damage, these are the builds I tend to use:

[build prof=P/Mo name="Empathic Paragon" box][Blazing Spear][Spear Of Redemption][Anthem Of Flame][Aria Of Restoration][Empathic Removal][Ballad Of Restoration][Aggressive Refrain][Signet Of Return][/build]

[build prof=P name="Cruel Spear Paragon" box][Cruel Spear][Disrupting Throw][Harrier's Toss]["Go For The Eyes!"]["Stand Your Ground!"]["Fall Back!"][Aggressive Refrain][Signet Of Return][/build]

Its like having a couple of high armoured monks (ok, maybe not quite the same healing capability, but they do pretty well!) with warrior DPS. Tasty.

I prefer expel over empathic

Quote: Originally Posted by Pyro maniac

Rac's default build is works great in physical friendly places but you need to re-configure if you intend to fight anti-physical mobs.

I am looking into building a [[Martyr] N/Mo or Mo/Rt hero to remove conditions fast. The /Rt part can help with [[Resilient Weapon] against hexes or conditions.

Another alternative is to use [[Pure was Li Ming] against conditions.

Pure was Mi Ling is really amazing for condi removal

Can someone post the triple paragon build please?

Wait, what? There's three Paragon heroes?

Paragon player + 2 paragon heros.

Quote: Originally Posted by minaau

Your on Fire Paragon and 2 SF Heroes=Dear God they die fast.

Quote: Originally Posted by distilledwill

In most pve zones, I love having two paragons heroes to chain
[skill]"Fall Back!"[/skill]

Even without TNTF, they dish out good dps and some support with the 7 open slots.

A motigon is a pretty nice addition to the party. He can do damage and support the party.
Ballad of restoration + Song of restoration were nerfed but are still decent. The rest of the bar is up to the player.
They're on fire/Blazing finale are very nice in a team with fire eles.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Racthoh maths stuff. While I agree with the maths, I'll still never like NS! as a healing support option simply because... ugh... I just dislike regen in general. If I want to push everyone's red bar up, I want it pushed up now to recover from that nasty AoE nuke/whatever

Serious question now... What if the motigon became a healagon with [[light of [email protected]]? You could spec an easy 11/10 in Healing and it's pretty strong - roughly ~300 health per minute - but it's 'spikey' red-bar work. The 'gon could then easily support another awesome monk support skill, like [[cure [email protected]], or even [[signet of [email protected]] if your tastes swing that way.
(... ok, ok, I saw a para with LoD on obs and I just got thinking after the last moti nerf )

Quote: Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex While I agree with the maths, I'll still never like NS! as a healing support option simply because... ugh... I just dislike regen in general. If I want to push everyone's red bar up, I want it pushed up now to recover from that nasty AoE nuke/whatever I don't like it either but it seems to be the skill I'm seeing on observer mode a lot (the whole not being able to interrupt it part is appealing too). The only really nasty AoEs are probably going to deal a lot more than the double-digits that both Ballad and Song offer though. They're also not going to be occuring all the time, so it's not like all the bars have to be pushed up immediately, just whoever has the focus fire. The red bar work for the others can be done while the AoE nuke is recharging after the enemy's target is healed up first.

Or get an SY bot, and HoTs in some places will be enough to keep the party up.

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