Do You Customize?

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kobey
kobey
GW Retiree
#181
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Originally Posted by Dark Kal
Your statement is only true if you regard damage as the only term of effectiveness. Being effective relies on more than just one variable. Both customizing and not customizing have their advantages and disadvantages depending on the situation.
Whats the advantages of not customizing your weapon? Resale? So you are basing effectiveness on the ability to sell your weapon? Does your guildhall have all traders? Is your friendlist filled up? Do you have 30+ titles? If your answer is no to either of one the questions, you are not effective. And you fail in the game coz of that. (well thats what I learnt from your definition of effectiveness anyway)

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Originally Posted by Dark Kal
I'm not against customization, if you have weapons that are very cheap go ahead and customize them. My weapons have atleast a 5k resale value, so no I don't customize them.
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5k is not cheap? Although you said "at least 5k", but when you say that, I am assuming you mean 5k - errr 10k???

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Originally Posted by Dark Kal
There is no disadvantage from adding a "+15% from damage" mod, unless you want to add a different mod. Customizing has advantages and disadvantages that's the difference.
Huh no disadvantage for a 15% while xx mod and there is a disadvantage for a perm 20% mod for customization?

Is a uncustomized 15^50 sword better or a customized 20% but no dmg mod (worthless) better?

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Originally Posted by Dark Kal
No, actually I never swap my sword but I do swap staffs, wands, foci, bows, ... on occasion. I also have the ability to remove any character without having to worry about customization
Oh aren't we talking about martial weapons that will make a difference by customization.

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Originally Posted by Dark Kal
and if I want a different skin I don't just have to throw away the other skin, but can actually redeem some of my money.
Can't you just keep it? or do you only use one set of mods for your character?
Buzzer
Buzzer
Wilds Pathfinder
#182
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Originally Posted by tmakinen
There's absolutely no need for customization, or even 'perfect' weapons.
Sure it's not essential but I don't understand why people limit their efficiency. It's like using 7 party members instead of 8.
tmakinen
tmakinen
Desert Nomad
#183
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Originally Posted by Buzzer
Sure it's not essential but I don't understand why people limit their efficiency. It's like using 7 party members instead of 8.
Because I can't bother and it doesn't matter. Best reason there is.

If I'm somewhere with real people and one player has to go, I won't bother starting anew just to get a full team instead of 7/8. I'm also 'limiting my efficiency' by not always choosing the absolutely most effective build for the given task or not bothering to fetch spare armor pieces from a storage account to get the optimal insignia/rune combo for the build I'm currently running. I just can't make myself obsess over something like PvE.
MithranArkanere
MithranArkanere
Underworld Spelunker
#184
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Originally Posted by Buzzer
Sure it's not essential but I don't understand why people limit their efficiency. It's like using 7 party members instead of 8.
Without a good trade system, getting again a certain item may take ages if you hate to trade.

Some player like to use items they no longer need with heroes of other characters, and so, if they customized them, they could not.
kobey
kobey
GW Retiree
#185
It really do depends on the reason why someone customize a weapon. I customize just for the sake of owning the weapon and the increase in dmg output isn't really part of my decision process.

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Without a good trade system, getting again a certain item may take ages if you hate to trade.
In GW, you either farm for your ideal weapon or buy it. Many others have done the same. There is Ventari Sell for all your trading needs. So I don't see any problems with the "trading system".
CagedinSanity
CagedinSanity
Wilds Pathfinder
#186
I have just recently (like, the past week) discovered that I will not make any other characters. I discovered that monks, mesmers, and paragons are not for me.
Because of this, I might actually customize my equipment some more.

But even then, I may discover a better skin, or a better item altogether that I may upgrade to, rendering my outdated, customized item useless.

So I am very scared up customizing things because of that point alone.
MithranArkanere
MithranArkanere
Underworld Spelunker
#187
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Originally Posted by kobey
It really do depends on the reason why someone customize a weapon. I customize just for the sake of owning the weapon and the increase in dmg output isn't really part of my decision process.



In GW, you either farm for your ideal weapon or buy it. Many others have done the same. There is Ventari Sell for all your trading needs. So I don't see any problems with the "trading system".
There are NO ventari sells inside the game.

And event forum and auction sites are slow, depends too much on people login times, so you may get offers from people you'll never see ingame, and most importatly, they may be inside sites recognized by Anet, but they are not official and there are no links from inside the game to them.

The basic of a trade system is everyone having direct access to it. I don't want to sell to Guru users only. I don' want to sell inside 'ghettos'. If you have to get out of the game and log in into a site not belonging directly to Anet, it's not a GW trade system, it's something external.

Currently the in-game trade system is only for a few, if you don't see the problems with it, you are probably part of that few.
kobey
kobey
GW Retiree
#188
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
There are NO ventari sells inside the game.

And event forum and auction sites are slow, depends too much on people login times, so you may get offers from people you'll never see ingame, and most importatly, they may be inside sites recognized by Anet, but they are not official and there are no links from inside the game to them.

The basic of a trade system is everyone having direct access to it. I don't want to sell to Guru users only. I don' want to sell inside 'ghettos'. If you have to get out of the game and log in into a site not belonging directly to Anet, it's not a GW trade system, it's something external.

Currently the in-game trade system is only for a few, if you don't see the problems with it, you are probably part of that few.
You are provided with the tools to aid you in the game. You have 2 choices:

a) Make use of it and be happy
b) Complain and hope that things will change

Apparently, you chose option b.
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Dark Kal
Krytan Explorer
#189
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Originally Posted by zwei2stein
Assumptions based on how you present yourself.

Kudos for completely dodging other arguments without having to address them. Guess they were really that inconvenient, eh.
You assumed wrong, I've never bought a weapon for 100k, or anywhere near that price, hence you're entire point is invalid. Secondly it doesn't even remotely relate to the point I'm trying to make. Thirdly, and most importantly, I don't value you very highly therefor I don't put much effort in replying to you. I could counter-argue but you're not worth it to me if that means I dodged your question or whatever... so be it.

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Math is bitch when used against you, ain't it.
Not really when the person using it against me doesn't even know how to use it properly. You completely disregared armorclass and just threw numbers at me as if they meant something or actually proved your point somehow.

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Whats the advantages of not customizing your weapon?
I've already given an ample supply of advantages.

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Does your guildhall have all traders? Is your friendlist filled up? Do you have 30+ titles? If your answer is no to either of one the questions, you are not effective. And you fail in the game coz of that. (well thats what I learnt from your definition of effectiveness anyway)
I don't understand how you came to that conclusion.

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5k is not cheap? Although you said "at least 5k", but when you say that, I am assuming you mean 5k - errr 10k???
I have weapons in a price range above 5k but below 100k. Anyway, yes 5-10k is significant enough for me not to customize my weapons since the damage increase is extremely negliable in PvE. But if 5-10k is pocket change for you, you may always give it to me.

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Huh no disadvantage for a 15% while xx mod and there is a disadvantage for a perm 20% mod for customization?
Disadvantages from customizing:
- Unable to resell the weapon to another player.
- Unable to be used on any other character, not even of the same account.

What are the disadvantages of having an inherent mod or insignia?

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Is a uncustomized 15^50 sword better or a customized 20% but no dmg mod (worthless) better?
The uncustomized sword is better since it can be resold and used by any player. Better does not equal most damage. The very definition of better is that something is superior to something else. Whatever makes the sword superior is completely dependend on personal preference, I like one thing you like an other.

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Oh aren't we talking about martial weapons that will make a difference by customization.
I'm discussing customization in general, but my points can also be used for martial weapons specificly. I'm sure people swap martial weapons as well, not per se between two warriors on the same account but when deleting a character or lending a weapon to someone.

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Can't you just keep it? or do you only use one set of mods for your character?
I don't keep more than one sword with the same stats since it would take up precious inventory space.
Jetdoc
Jetdoc
Hell's Protector
#190
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Originally Posted by tmakinen
Because I can't bother and it doesn't matter. Best reason there is.
This has gotta be the primary reason that so many people do not customize...because PvE is pretty darn easy, and you don't need to be the most effective to be able to complete it.

That being said, if I'm playing Halo and I'm allowed to dual wield a weapon, I'm sure as heck gonna dual wield it, even though I know I can easily complete the game with one weapon. To me, I simply don't like playing a game unless I'm being completely effective...and if you aren't customizing, you simply aren't being as effective as you could be.

That's probably the completionist in me showing through, however.
Winstar
Winstar
Jungle Guide
#191
Yes, for any pve toon I use in PvP...though with reward points those days are pretty much long gone.
zwei2stein
zwei2stein
Grotto Attendant
#192
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Originally Posted by Dark Kal
You assumed wrong, I've never bought a weapon for 100k, or anywhere near that price, hence you're entire point is invalid. Secondly it doesn't even remotely relate to the point I'm trying to make. Thirdly, and most importantly, I don't value you very highly therefor I don't put much effort in replying to you. I could counter-argue but you're not worth it to me if that means I dodged your question or whatever... so be it.
Buying weapon for 100k and keeping weapon worth 100k is equivalent: you end up 100k minus in the end from what you had or potentially had. 100k or 10k, you still end up in minus.

And what you claimed was that keeping weapon (whatever way acquired) for resale and using it uncustomized is effective. Are you now claiming that it is not true?

Oh, and you know what? If you have counter arguments, preferably the ones that don't consist of "not liking me" or "not liking Avarres avatar", Use them. For sake of others that will see them and see light.

Or be man and acknowledge that what you claimed to be superior pve strategy in customization is in fact not.

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And take example from tmakinen. He is making valid and good points and you don't see anyone arguing with him for reason.
Fear Me!
Fear Me!
Frost Gate Guardian
#193
Yes. All my physical weapons I customize.
super strokey
super strokey
Krytan Explorer
#194
lol i totally forgot that i can do this, of course i havtn played in forever. When i get back into it ill customize everything. 20% extra is awesome
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Master Knightfall
Banned
#195
I only customize martial weapons I intend to use in PVP. The rest for pve I leave uncustomized because it's just not required. Plus I can then transfer them around to my other characters and their heroes when needed. Wands, staffs and really any caster weapons I would rarely customize as they should really be casting as opposed to throwing lil lightning bolts around with their wands. I have customized a fire wand that I use with my W/E when I use that Rage Elite that gives high pct criticals every attack for 10 seconds in conjuction with conjure flame and mark of rodgort. Quite some powerful damage customizing for that build. In FA it's even more powerful if you use it along with IWAY as IWAY is a shout and not a stance so you can toss up IWAY and then RAGE and you will be attacking 25% faster and gaining life and getting massive criticals. <grin>
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Dark Kal
Krytan Explorer
#196
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Originally Posted by zwei2stein
Buying weapon for 100k and keeping weapon worth 100k is equivalent: you end up 100k minus in the end from what you had or potentially had. 100k or 10k, you still end up in minus.
I've never bought a 100k weapon and I'm nowhere near lucky enough to have a 100k weapon drop for me. So you are making assumptions that aren't anywhere near accurate.

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Oh, and you know what? If you have counter arguments, preferably the ones that don't consist of "not liking me" or "not liking Avarres avatar", Use them. For sake of others that will see them and see light.
First of all they aren't counter arguments, they're reasons I'm not argueing with you. Secondly I said I liked Avarre's avatar because it nicely represents his close mindedness and pompous attitude. But no you're still not worth argueing with. But hell, if it'll make you happy: you win, k leave me alone now.
kobey
kobey
GW Retiree
#197
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Originally Posted by Dark Kal
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I am sad for you that you have to share your weapons among your characters and heros.

Here's some advice:

1) Use Greens
if you can't afford greens
2) Use collectors
if you still can't afford
3) id all your drops before you merch them, that should get you some extra funds

I wouldn't recommend farming for you, coz I don't think it will work out for you. The reality is sad. Here's a tear drop for you
pumpkin pie
pumpkin pie
Furnace Stoker
#198
I try to customise once, and end up with a storage filled with mods that consequently made me very dizzy looking and trying them on everything I get. quite frustrating to do that. I finally sold them all to the merchant leaving only 5 +30hp mods. which I still can't find decent weapons to put them on.
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Dark Kal
Krytan Explorer
#199
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Originally Posted by kobey
I wouldn't recommend farming for you, coz I don't think it will work out for you. The reality is sad. Here's a tear drop for you
You don't know anything about me or my playstyle don't make wrong assumptions.
kobey
kobey
GW Retiree
#200
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Originally Posted by Dark Kal
You don't know anything about me or my playstyle don't make wrong assumptions.
From some of your posts, I conclude you are "effective" in the game.

Am I wrong?