is there any use for assassin heroes?

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Boogz
Boogz
Lion's Arch Merchant
#1
I can't find any other use for assassin heroes than A/R critical barrage, they don't use moebius builds correctly, also don't use critscythe builds well, are they just a waste of slot or there is some use for them?
- Tain -
- Tain -
Desert Nomad
#2
Melee AI isn't the most reliable in general, and sins are worse because they don't know how to use their skills. So no, there is no reason to bring a sin hero.
joshuarodger
joshuarodger
Unbanned
#3
nope
12chars.
Luminarus
Luminarus
Furnace Stoker
#4
They good for providing storage spots in their weapon slots
Shayne Hawke
Shayne Hawke
Departed from Tyria
#5
I've seen a few people in the past make builds for them that revolved a lot around hexes. I don't have any of those builds, and I don't know if any would be viable anymore.
llsektorll
llsektorll
Desert Nomad
#6
Yes....... Meat-shields!
Scary Raebbit
Scary Raebbit
Krytan Explorer
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by llsektorll
Yes....... Meat-shields! Warriors do it better.
FlamingMetroid
FlamingMetroid
Jungle Guide
#8
they have assassin heroes?!
Marverick
Marverick
Forge Runner
#9
Assassin heroes have great synergy with MM bombers.
Miska Bow
Miska Bow
Krytan Explorer
#10
They provide you with 2 extra storage slot for a weapon and a off-hand.

Nyktos
Nyktos
Lion's Arch Merchant
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by Miska Bow
They provide you with 2 extra storage slot for a weapon and a off-hand.

And more importantly: five runes and five insignias. Yes, it costs a salvage use to get them off, but that's worth the saved storage space, I think.

Ontopic: Crit Barrage is probably the best you're going to get. Luckily, there aren't any story missions that require Anton or Zenmai, so I'd probably just not use them.
fearfactory
fearfactory
Ascalonian Squire
#12
hero FFF.. that's about it.
Antithesis
Antithesis
Desert Nomad
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by Boogz
I can't find any other use for assassin heroes than A/R critical barrage, they don't use moebius builds correctly, also don't use critscythe builds well, are they just a waste of slot or there is some use for them? Testing how quickly you can drain a Hero Monk's energy.
Providing a MM with a headstart.
Marverick
Marverick
Forge Runner
#14
Moebius/DB is probably the best build for them. Keep attack skills simple, I like to just use three: Golden Phoenix Strike, Death Blossom, and Moebius Strike. Any more and heroes get confused and do stupid stuff like Moebius Strike > Critical Strike > Death Blossom. Zenmai does around 50 DPS with that; not optimal, yea, but a lot better than critical barrage and other garbage.
Boogz
Boogz
Lion's Arch Merchant
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
I've seen a few people in the past make builds for them that revolved a lot around hexes. I don't have any of those builds, and I don't know if any would be viable anymore. [card]Siphon Strength[/card]
wich is not worth of using on pve

yeah, i'll use my zenmai and anton as storages
Fangclaw
Fangclaw
Frost Gate Guardian
#16
Good distraction and MM fuel...
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FoxBat
Furnace Stoker
#17
I like the Golden Fox -> Golden Fang -> Blossom -> Moebius, similar deal. Add critical eye, some other random enchantment, and a run buff (maybe rush). Then add things like orders, barbs, strength of honor, etc. Cuts through destroyers like butter with the title on, since she's spamming skills constantly and has mostly armor-ignoring damage.

Always be careful with anything remotely conditional. They seem hesitant to use wild strike on someone not in a stance, for example. You can throw these skills on as extras, but they shouldn't be part of the primary combo.

Edit: also, may want to look into scythe assassins. 80% crit is nice damage. Just load them up with 3/4th attack skills.
Mr. Undisclosed
Mr. Undisclosed
I phail
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by Boogz
I can't find any other use for assassin heroes than A/R critical barrage, they don't use moebius builds correctly, also don't use critscythe builds well, are they just a waste of slot or there is some use for them? They look cool?
Antithesis
Antithesis
Desert Nomad
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by Sergeant Miyagi
They look cool? True...Primeval on Zenmai and Deldrimor on Anton look the bomb. Might as well leave a good-looking corpse
Draginvry
Draginvry
Lion's Arch Merchant
#20
I use Zenmai as a smiting assacaster for undead areas.

But really, that's only because I have my monks geared solely for healing and protection, and all of my other casters are doing usefull things (MM or nukes).

Zenmai just gets the dirty jobs that aren't important enough for my other heros. But she is an assassin, so she should understand.