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Originally Posted by Shadow Kurd
Nevermind i found it:
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:N/...rvor_Doomspike |
Update Friday, March 21 2008
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Originally Posted by Shadow Kurd
Nevermind i found it:
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:N/...rvor_Doomspike |
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Exploiting bugged skill in PvP = *queue music- We Are The Champions*
In other words people get upset after these sorts of things because they're most likely the people that went around exploiting the bug in the first place and want the exploit to stay so that they can continue to use it and feel godlike.
In other words people get upset after these sorts of things because they're most likely the people that went around exploiting the bug in the first place and want the exploit to stay so that they can continue to use it and feel godlike.
I resisted speaking about this build until it got rampant throughout the game and nerfed, but now that it has I can shoot.
This build was beyond broken. It didn't belong in the game period. 800+ dps bug did not belong in the game. Instawiping teams in TA and HA did not belong in the game. I'm just glad I got to have fun with it before it died. =p
The thing that makes me laugh most is some "experts" before this nerf claiming that it was not OP, and that you could deal with it because it was counterable by enchant removal blah blah. All of those people are idiots and I will never listen to them about anything relevant ever again.
This build was beyond broken. It didn't belong in the game period. 800+ dps bug did not belong in the game. Instawiping teams in TA and HA did not belong in the game. I'm just glad I got to have fun with it before it died. =p
The thing that makes me laugh most is some "experts" before this nerf claiming that it was not OP, and that you could deal with it because it was counterable by enchant removal blah blah. All of those people are idiots and I will never listen to them about anything relevant ever again.
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Originally Posted by jinzo7
fking pvpers ruining my farming builds again
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and the PvE FARMERS (not players cause causal players just go about blowing shit up after nerfs cause it doenst hurt them cause they adapt) say its the PvPers that always whine.
It goes mostly like this:
>skill/combo becomes abused in PvE/PvP
>PvPers come to devs or guru etc and say its imbalanced
>Other PvPers agree "yeah its too powerful", "I agree Its overpowered when there's no way to prot/stop it from owning you"
>Anet checks it out and sees its too powerful
>Anet nerfs the skill/skills (albeit they dont always do it the right way)
>PvE FARMERS come to guru to whine about PvPers nerfing thier god mode combos, cause farmers dont know how to adapt. Rest of PvE community is fine and goes on smashing enemies faces in.
>PvE Farmer whine fest becomes flame fest because farmers are too ignorant to see straight.
>Thread closed or abandoned cause neither side wins because of farmers inability to think, after all how much do you have to think to button mash what your told to by the pvxwiki farm builds
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Originally Posted by Wild Karrde
and the PvE FARMERS (not players cause causal players just go about blowing shit up after nerfs cause it doenst hurt them cause they adapt) say its the PvPers that always whine.
It goes mostly like this: >skill/combo becomes abused in PvE/PvP >PvPers come to devs or guru etc and say its imbalanced >Other PvPers agree "yeah its too powerful", "I agree Its overpowered when there's no way to prot/stop it from owning you" >PvPers ignore the numerous counters to the build in question, because it's easier to whine. >Anet checks it out and sees its too powerful >Anet nerfs the skill/skills (albeit they dont always do it the right way) >PvE FARMERS come to guru to whine about PvPers nerfing thier god mode combos, cause farmers dont know how to adapt. Rest of PvE community is fine and goes on smashing enemies faces in. >PvE Farmer whine fest becomes flame fest because farmers are too ignorant to see straight. >Thread closed or abandoned cause neither side wins because of farmers inability to think, after all how much do you have to think to button mash what your told to by the pvxwiki farm builds |
Counterable is not the same as balanced.
You cannot afford to bring hard counters to every gimmick or overpowered combination because it gimps you against everything else. You don't have the bar space, and you don't know what you're going up against.
Every gimmick is counterable. Their power is in hoping the opponent does not have the specific counter necessary for that gimmick. Supporting overpowered builds and hard counters turns the game into rock-paper-scissors which is even more retarded.
In conclusion, unless you PvP, you don't get to talk about PvP balance. Continuing to derail with false, noncontributing opinions like 'omg just lern 2 counter' and trolling will result in the thread being locked and bans going out.
You cannot afford to bring hard counters to every gimmick or overpowered combination because it gimps you against everything else. You don't have the bar space, and you don't know what you're going up against.
Every gimmick is counterable. Their power is in hoping the opponent does not have the specific counter necessary for that gimmick. Supporting overpowered builds and hard counters turns the game into rock-paper-scissors which is even more retarded.
In conclusion, unless you PvP, you don't get to talk about PvP balance. Continuing to derail with false, noncontributing opinions like 'omg just lern 2 counter' and trolling will result in the thread being locked and bans going out.