I blame prophecies for noob builds

Dont blame the game, some people are just not good at playing GW but like to do so anyway.

Its not the game that's not reading wiki, guru or hold the mouse/keyboard.

Wtf i love play like that im buying new proph account during next week and ill make char with that acc that i dont use anything i dont faind or get from collectors :P (i only buy tyria cause i like it so much)

hmm... the worst "noobiest" thing i did when i first started was running a ranger with healing sig O.0 but meh... only 1 skill that shouldn't be there so it was all good. GW was actually 'fun' back then as well, imo. ^^

anyways, back in the day when factions JUST released, i created a build that was quite good while it was un-nerfed that involved mending (w00t!!) that i used for quite some time (w00t!!) so yea.. without further ado... here it is!!

I R WUZ TEH 1337 W4MM0!! RAWR!!


edit: i believe these were the exact attribute points that i used. i remade this build off the top of my head, but i am 99.9% sure this was the exact point set-up.

I like it, seems simple and effective.


Whats up with everyone hating W/Mo that use mending? Is it the fact that they are harder to kill unless you can strip the enchanment?

yay a build with mending in it = 1337ness... xD

call me a noob, but, i will always <3 mending on a warrior (even though i don't run it anymore b/c it's so completely obsolete now-a-days). the perma +3 health regen was actually VERY effective back before NF came out and all. i can tell you one thing though-- it made me a pretty damn good warrior for having such limited skills without nightfall. i so miss the noob days... *sigh*....being "elite" makes the game so less interesting, i have to admit. not knowing what to expect.. not being able to always 100% beat something ont he first try with ease.... i wish we could all go back to those days

Hey, I have no problem with how you play as long as you know what you're doing/getting yourself into : )

It's using a crapload of energy for a relatively small heal over a very long period of time. It's vastly more energy-efficient to run stuff like WoH on a monk. Also, 6 health per second isn't going to save your life if something really decides to beat you up.

Fun with math: A WoH heals for around 200 hp in 3/4 second for 5 energy. Mending will heal for 200 hp in 33 seconds for 11 energy (not counting the initial cost).

However, the build posted is bad because it lacks an IAS, not directly because of mending (although it doesn't help).

That was way later on not at the beginning of the game and back then we did some exploring.It was to make the game fun and to play it right that is if you wanted all your skills.The majority of the players did this as most weren't able to get running skills untill after they got to Perdition Rock.

I would say that most played the game properly like the other person who quoted you said how could they when they didn't have enough gold and there were hardly any bots or none back then.

My first character was a Proph Me/Mo and there wasn't much skill choices at the beginning. I wanted to use my secondary, but I ended up having to make some really sub par bars with what I had back then.

My first char was a mo/n. I was supposed to be raising thousands of minions and keeping them up with my healing.

Then I found out about Blood of the Master and pre-nerf Verata's Sacrifice.

Then I was a monk with Blood of the Master and pre-nerf Varata's Sacrifice.

Good times.

Skill bars change with how much we know about the game, they change with nerfs/buffs, they changed when new professions were added to the game and they change to match the threat in elite areas (util ursan was introdused anyway). So simply put you can't blame it on a time or chapter in guild wars, the reason there are idiots out there that have beaten the game and are still running a half ele half ranger build without an elite or skills that compliment eachother is beacuse they don't know any better and refuse to accept critisizm when it's given. People just have to understand that some people out there have been around longer and know what works and what doesn't.

It all depends on the person playing and if they want to understad how to play or if they want to spam all day in alliance chat "need help with mission".

Ahh the good times!
When PvE players still understood that having fun was far more important then having the best skills EVAH on ones skillbar because the end effect is the same - stuff will spontaneously combust either way.
May that be with Flare or with DS fuelling SY.

I pity us ...

It really sucks getting better at this game ...

You obviously are not a roleplayer and instead are a powergamer. A roleplayer will play ANY kind of build that makes THEM happy or is ENJOYABLE to play. Obviously you never played DnD tabletop games where you might only have 6 str as a fighter or 7 wisdom as a cleric or 6 intelligence as a wizard. Playing gimped builds is as much fun to some people as playing powergamer dps only matters type of player. It's not about how FAST you kill the mobs, but, how much FUN you have doing it.

I've run with some players who we all decided that no attribute could go above 9 and it's a lot more fun and challenging playing with those rules and restrictions than just plowing through mob after mob with maxed out attributes of 16 with skills that can make them goto 20.

Yessir some people are just nothing more than powergamers and think EVERYone in the world should play JUST LIKE THEM and their COOKIE CUTTER builds even THEY got off the Internet. Really a shame people can't learn to accept other people builds as they are, learn to play with others that are different than they are and just get along. Afterall life doesn't depend on GW, you don't lose a thing if you play for FUN instead of worrying if your precious time is wasted cause you didn't get to yet another silly skinned item that is no better than a collectors item.

I had to monk a team in the Ring of Fire in the beginning (with my R/Mo), because we could not find a decent second monk, and I was the only player with monk as secondary.
Good times ^^ I hope GW2 will have the same noobie attitude in the beginning

I remember when I first started (Mid-May '05), I made a Necro (most recent game I had been playing was D2, really liked the nec in that game). I remember maxing out fire magic and using all fire magic skills . I remember doing it through the desert, and the Ring of Fire islands. I didn't know any better, and I guess the game was still pretty new, 'cause no one corrected me (probably would have helped, if they had). I didn't even think of the possibility of starting a primary Ele.

You can't blame new players, even if it does get frustrating. I do think you should correct them (kindly), even if they don't listen. Like the other day in RA I grouped with a War who was spirit spamming. I asked him why he was casting spirits, and he said "dude it totally owns". I tried to tell him it was better to just go Rit primary, but he wouldn't listen, so I gave up and healed his butt anyway .

awesome pic! thanks, it changed my bummed out mood

oh noes! the truth!


this is one of the things in peoples mentality that disgusts me.

African War Lord, I blame you if they change pre searing ascalon skills. If people can't evolve then leave them to the dogs.

Long loooooooooong ago, with my first char I did the final mission in Proph with one real monk and me, a W/Mo (yes yes...) as healers. We actually made it too, somehow, it was the most intense gaming I'd ever done, lol.

I can see what you're saying and agree to a certain extent. I mean, giving a lvl5 warrior frenzy and heal signet? Is that even wise?

But still, noob builds only stay that way because people refuse to learn.

PvE is to blame for 'n00b' builds - essentially, it's easy enough that it's possible to beat with a really sub-par build; the game at no point forces the player to get better.
Why should Johnny Wammo or Scrub Ranger stop using Mending, Firestorm or Conjure Phantasm if they continue to win at PvE with them? Oftentimes, they couldn't care less about finding the best way to do things, if it works and they beat the bad dudes and get the phat lewts, they're happy.

And for reference, here is a few of my own builds from way back then, that I beat later missions with

[skill]battle rage[/skill][skill]sever artery[/skill][skill]gash[/skill][skill]galrath slash[/skill][skill]final thrust[/skill][skill]purge signet[/skill][skill]succor[/skill][skill]rebirth[/skill]

[skill]lightning strike[/skill][skill]enervating charge[/skill][skill]chain lightning[/skill][skill]lightning orb[/skill][skill]windborne speed[/skill][skill]troll unguent[/skill][skill]air attunement[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

[skill]punishing shot[/skill][skill]hunter's shot[/skill][skill]distracting shot[/skill][skill]favorable winds[/skill][skill]throw dirt[/skill][skill]kindle arrows[/skill][skill]troll unguent[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]