Armor debate

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Aris the Accurate
Aris the Accurate
Frost Gate Guardian
#1
I am looking to purchase a new set of armor for my para. I have been debating betwen Centurion and Survivor. Both have good points, but im looking for a rounded set (works well in pve and pvp). So which set is more rounded? Thanks for the help. n_n
madriel222
madriel222
Krytan Explorer
#2
I would go with Centurion. Taking less damage per blow makes life easier on your monks and over the long haul will keep you alive longer than a little extra health.
Stormlord Alex
Stormlord Alex
Grotto Attendant
#3
Survivor for both PvE and PvP.
Terraban
Terraban
Krytan Explorer
#4
I'm an Armor-Addict.
K
Kyp Jade
Jungle Guide
#5
arent there 10 other threads here in the paragon subforums about the same thing?

go centurions. 10 free armor.

Think about it this way
If you add 40 armor, you take 50% less damage
10 armor means you take 13% less damage.

Its worth more than the scant HP you gain from survivors
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majikmajikmajik
Wilds Pathfinder
#6
mix both........
Faith Falls Fast
Faith Falls Fast
Frost Gate Guardian
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by majikmajikmajik
mix both........ That is probably the worst option. Centurions effects aren't global, they only affect the armor piece they are attached to, thus you want to at least make sure they are on the chest and legs to ensure those are the spots hit the most. And for Survivors, it gives the largest boost to your health on the Chest and Leg pieces, overall it's pointless to mix them.
Terraban
Terraban
Krytan Explorer
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by Faith Falls Fast
That is probably the worst option. Centurions effects aren't global, they only affect the armor piece they are attached to, thus you want to at least make sure they are on the chest and legs to ensure those are the spots hit the most. And for Survivors, it gives the largest boost to your health on the Chest and Leg pieces, overall it's pointless to mix them. This post proves nothing...

The chest is hit 3x as much as the hands.
The armor would take effect 3x as much as on the hands.
The extra health would add 3x as much as it does on the hands.

Mixing and matching loses no effectiveness if the benefits of +armor = the benefits of +health.
Arkantos
Arkantos
The Greatest
#9
Extra health is useful in every situation, extra armor is not. I'd say +40 health is much more useful then +10 armor on a high armor midline character.
Shaz
Shaz
Krytan Explorer
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Survivor for both PvE and PvP. +1. In PvE and PvP, paragons are rarely target at. +HP help in PvP when you accumulate some DP. Most kill in PvP are either made through spike which can contain a lot of armor ignoring damage or through health degeneration pressure with hexes and conditions. Both of which make Survivor a better choice. In PvE, it doesn't matter but I prefer Survivor there also.
Richardt
Richardt
Jungle Guide
#11
I would go with Centurions over Survivor.

But tbh....I use radiants on my para lol.
Arkantos
Arkantos
The Greatest
#12
Why do you use radiant insignias when you have leadership + shouts? Seems really useless.
Axel Zinfandel
Axel Zinfandel
Desert Nomad
#13
I use Centurion, since It seems better in the long run then a little more health. Personally, I'd rather enemies target me in PvE, rather then my heroes/henchies. Paragons have 80 armor and a shield for a reason, so buffing health for the soul reason of not being targeted seems silly.
mrmango
mrmango
Desert Nomad
#14
But armor isn't better in the long run for reasons stated by Shaz and Arkantos.
And you're right, they have 96 armor for a reason, why make it 106? Health wins more.
MisterB
MisterB
Furnace Stoker
#15
Health doesn't do anything unless you are at 1 HP. My Paragon is rarely targeted in PvE, and never drops that low. When I do get hit, Centurion reduces some forms of damage. Centurion is also cheaper, so I went with that.

But, since you want an all-purpose set(PvE and PvP), I have no comment on PvP Paragon armor.
Dodo The Extinct
Dodo The Extinct
Wilds Pathfinder
#16
Get Survivor armour.
cellardweller
cellardweller
Likes naked dance offs
#17
Depends - If you're cheesing out a godmode para then you want survivors because you want to be the last one to be targetted by the ai. If you're not using pve skills then I'd go with centurions - when something is tearing up your mid/back line you want them to be on the highest AL target and the lower hp will make them choose you.
Shaz
Shaz
Krytan Explorer
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel
Personally, I'd rather enemies target me in PvE, rather then my heroes/henchies. I don't worry about my H/H because they have +100 armor .

With TNTF reducing 35% of the damage, +10 Armor seem unnecessary. It's nice to have that +10 armor, yes. But I like to pick what's most useful, and extra health is always useful.
Coloneh
Coloneh
Furnace Stoker
#19
mix. centurion's on pieces that get hit (chest and legs), survivors on the rest.
angmar_nite
angmar_nite
Jungle Guide
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by Coloneh
mix. centurion's on pieces that get hit (chest and legs), survivors on the rest. Then you'll get like +15 health which isn't very much...