The crash of the armbrace market...

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Jetdoc
Jetdoc
Hell's Protector
#1
I saw someone spamming an armbrace for 100K + 10 ectos last night in Kamadan.

I find it amusing since a little over a month ago you found people spamming/trading at between 100K + 35 ectos to 100K + 40 ectos.

This really has to be causing havoc in the very high-end trading circles, as one of their main commodities is really taking a nosedive.

Anyone have any ideas as to why the market has cratered? The proliferation of Ursan? The spending of excess cash on sweets/party favors/afking during the Canthan New Year? The decreasing rarity of tormented weapons?

It's been one of the biggest movements in the economy I've seen over the past year...
I MP I
I MP I
Hustler
#2
Ursan and duping.
Shuuda
Shuuda
Forge Runner
#3
It's starts with the letter "D" I believe >_>.
N1ghtstalker
N1ghtstalker
Forge Runner
#4
ursan definitly
worst idea ever
Racthoh
Racthoh
Did I hear 7 heroes?
#5
Armor of Salvation.
Essence of Celerity.
PvE skills.
Jetdoc
Jetdoc
Hell's Protector
#6
Quote:
Originally Posted by I MP I
Ursan and duping.
I may be ignorant, but is duping STILL going on?

If not, I'm not sure how the duping scandal from several months ago would be impacting the market now...
stretchs
stretchs
Jungle Guide
#7
Duping and consumables are really the key culprits of this, regardless of what anet has said about removing the dupes armbrace, many people realize/can see it just isnt true. Ursan while something that has sped it up, without the consumables ursan is not nearly as an effective method. Also there were 117 guys that farmed this area nonstop......
Songbringer
Songbringer
Desert Nomad
#8
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
I may be ignorant, but is duping STILL going on?

If not, I'm not sure how the duping scandal from several months ago would be impacting the market now...

Because they didn't catch them all and people still sell them off.
Songbringer
Songbringer
Desert Nomad
#9
Quote:
Originally Posted by stretchs
Duping and consumables are really the key culprits of this, regardless of what anet has said about removing the dupes armbrace, many people realize/can see it just isnt true. Ursan while something that has sped it up, without the consumables ursan is not nearly as an effective method. Also there were 117 guys that farmed this area nonstop......

Err the 117 refers to the ones who were banend for using the "secret outposts" to run peopl through the game and skipping over many sections. Or am I mistaken? I generally avoid reading about people getting banned because I don't care and believe that anet truely only bans people who deserve it.
Cathode_Reborn
Cathode_Reborn
Desert Nomad
#10
If Duping was the reason, I think the prices would've lowered ages ago.

Just take a quick trip to DoA and you'll see that every single pug there is running Ursan
Uber Mass
Uber Mass
Krytan Explorer
#11
Overfarmed by ursan teams... how many threads there been about this?

Simple fact of market been overflowing with armbraces... its not quite rare if you have a tormented weapon atm =p
Jetdoc
Jetdoc
Hell's Protector
#12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Songbringer
Because they didn't catch them all and people still sell them off.
Hmmm...so the argument would be that there is some "hidden supply" of duped armbraces out there that have been held back and just recently introduced into the marketplace?

Interesting...

P.S. Regarding the 117, I'm still not clear why that would be impacting prices over the past couple of weeks, since those people were banned (and the exploit closed) over a month ago. That is, unless there is some hidden supply of armbraces...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Uber Mass
Overfarmed by ursan teams... how many threads there been about this?
But why over the past couple of weeks? I doubt that Ursan has become some new, flashy thing that has just now taken stride since the Canthan New Year...but I could be wrong.
makosi
makosi
Grotto Attendant
#13
With an Ursan team using consumables, you can easily get an Armbrace in a weekend or even in a day if you're hardcore. You are guaranteed 14 gems from a full run so 4 runs gives you 56 out 60 gems required - and this excludes gem drops.
MithranArkanere
MithranArkanere
Underworld Spelunker
#14
Bleh.

What is better? 3..4 professions making the very same thing with the very same fixed build, or 10 professions making the very same thing with the very same build?

Almost the same.
Z
Zahr Dalsk
Grotto Attendant
#15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
If not, I'm not sure how the duping scandal from several months ago would be impacting the market now...
Duping -> lowers prices.

Lower Prices -> people less willing to pay as much as they used to be even when their availability is less common again.
Uber Mass
Uber Mass
Krytan Explorer
#16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
But why over the past couple of weeks? I doubt that Ursan has become some new, flashy thing that has just now taken stride since the Canthan New Year...but I could be wrong.
Simply just more people picking it up... pushing the market

a NM run with a decent ursan team takes about 1.5 hrs for all 4 areas
mallyx about 15 mins

do that x100 groups running around every day.
Tachyon
Tachyon
Forge Runner
#17
Sod the Armbraces, I'd like to know where people get all these ectos from! I've been playing since day one, have all three campaigns and EotN yet haven't had a single ecto drop for me at all!
HawkofStorms
HawkofStorms
Hall Hero
#18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
Hmmm...so the argument would be that there is some "hidden supply" of duped armbraces out there that have been held back and just recently introduced into the marketplace?

Interesting...

P.S. Regarding the 117, I'm still not clear why that would be impacting prices over the past couple of weeks, since those people were banned (and the exploit closed) over a month ago. That is, unless there is some hidden supply of armbraces...
You see, if those 117 bought, say, a crystaline, from somebody for 700 Armbraces (which is possible, there are screen shots of dupers with a whole trading window full of armbraces), then that guy with his 700 armbraces would not have been banned. The money is effectively laundred and still exists within the economy.
a
aapo
Wilds Pathfinder
#19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Azagoth
Sod the Armbraces, I'd like to know where people get all these ectos from! I've been playing since day one, have all three campaigns and EotN yet haven't had a single ecto drop for me at all!
- You've never been in Underworld and you joined at November 2005? There's loads of solofarming and dualfarming builds to get ectos with.
hurric
hurric
Krytan Explorer
#20
GWEN was the reason of course (Ursan+consums/pve skills+and all that crap)

a LOT of people can buy an armbrace cheap now so good for them. No turning back on that but I wonder if they regret it at ANet since they're still not making the Zaishen chest drop anything good even after all these people opening the chest with hundreds of keys. What we had maybe 1 super rare drop and a handful of eternal blades? They might as well make it drop more stuff so everyone has everything before GW2. Why not !