If all MMOs were subscription-free ....

Definately Galaxies. Doing the space missions, being able to bounty-hunt players, etc. is a ton of fun. They've gotten better with the grind, though there is still a bit of it left.

Graphics aren't cartoon-y like WoW.

I also loved the non-instanced part of Galaxies. Seeing people out and about instead of just in a specific town is awesome.

And the greatest reason of all: killing gungans with a lightsaber!!!

Starcraft 2, when it comes out sometime this 2007

last year called,they want you to leave.

I'd dump GW and head straight to WoW.

I pretty much play MMOs to team, which is what hardly ever happens in GW anymore.

meh I mean 2008 w/e. It's cool i can afford to wait........gonna be busy this year anyways (and what's w/ every1 against SC 2 lol....)

Ive never played any other online game other than gw and gears of war round my neighbours, but i would probably play FF online just cos i like the FF series

EvE has become the harbor for pathological griefers, since there's nothing else in game. Unless you enjoy looking at virtual planets. Those that enjoy eDrama and TS rage (see google for the abundance of organizations that specialize in that) love EvE. Those looking for active gameplay however, will find more pleasure in re-arranging columns in Excel or watching the paint dry. Destroying someone's virtual ship to steal their virtual credits and hear them cry on TS is not something I'd consider appealing. I find it kinda sad.

But at very least EvE stayed true to its design. Not unlike some games, which launch to cater to one group, and then suddenly become something else.

But perhaps I missed something. Is there some other "end-game" in EvE? If so, then it's very well hidden.

Those are actually the same issue. Fee based games are designed to waste as much of your time as possible to milk as much money from you as possible, grind with incremental power increases is the best way to achieve that purpose.

EVE end game is owning/running a corp, and a lot of big ships to go with it.

It's not everyones type of game.

Hence why I always come back to GW

Grind is subjective.

I've been playing WoW for over a month, and so far, no grind b/c everything I've been doing is fun. (One caveat: the crafting system needs a revamp with no waiting bar. THAT is obviously built in to suck time.)

You enjoyed the early quests? God, what a snorefest.

It's the same thing in Guild Wars...

How many times can you do the early quests in Factions or Nightfall and not get bored?

Keep in mind too, WoW is an old school MMORPG. It's all kill "x" of monster "y".

Which, when you think about it, is different from the Title Tracks in GWEN how?

I actually enjoyed the early quests for the Draenei. Maybe it's the music, or the setting, I don't know.

The fact that most races have a unique starting area is nice too, unlike Guild Wars where everyone starts in the same area.

Lets not fool ourselves: Both games are about killing monsters.

I would definetly be playing Star Wars Galaxies. I do kind of miss playing my Elder Bothan Jedi/Imperial Ace Pilot.

i alt from WoW to GW mostly was GW tho some CoD4 now and again tho

Paying to play LOTRO atm, so obviously would have no problem playing it for free. However i don't see it as a time filler until GW2 - i can't see me making the switch. Anet have got too much wrong.

This is the whole point. Majority of effort in MMOs is spent on starter areas. They get people hooked.

Then, grind is added to slow the progression through increasingly pointless areas. But people still play, since they expect things to improve as they reach higher level.

And when they reach the level cap, they say: "What now?"

You've been suckered into playing for 3 months. But do buy the expansion. There's better content there, we promise.

And best of all - it works like a charm. Even now, after so many people have experienced the MMOs, players still fall for it. They still get into grindfests, hoping for that promised reward.

But if there's 10 million that are willing to do this in WoW alone, why not milk that market. It takes so much less effort than designing a different game.

Look at GW titles. They don't give any benefit, they don't promise anything, yet people have become mindless zombies grinding them.

wow is too much grind for me and is too pro 'superman player' rather than 'ordinary player'. the whole idea of legendary and epic weapons makes me sick imagine going into pvp with them plus way too much nerds( not to say there no nerds in GW)

WOW = good to star off with
WOW = bad in mid way levels way too much grind (plus the middle is huge)
WOW = good at the end but only a few turn into the 'superman characters' that people sooo wanted.

LOL Actually eve has the WORST player community I have EVER found in the 10 mmos I've played. Its was even worse that wows and thats really saying something. None of the people I met in my four months there was the LEAST bit helpfull. The corps do NOTHING but attack each other. ONLY play eve if your idea of fun is ruining other peoples or breaking most of the rules every other mmo has. EG scaming people, hassling other players, deliberatly attacking the same person over and over again. Basicly anything that would get you banned in GW is fine in eve.

just gw
wow sucks. i wouldnt play (it again) if they paid me

God,I hate people flaming a game when they never even tryed it or have arguments to back them up.