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Originally Posted by Arkantos
As a matter of fact I do run it on my necro. When you have a SS and MM necro hero, there's really not a whole lot to do. SS necro deals AoE damage, MM necro deals AoE damage, so I decided I might as well try to fit an AoE damage skill on my bar. I chose Icy Veins, to see how it works. Sure, the damage isn't as much as SS, but it's not bad damage.
If you're running the IV on yourself as a necromancer, and the SS and MM on heroes, I think you're making a major mistake. Heroes don't at all use a spell like SS, Enfeebling, or whatever particularly good. They don't place their hexes properly, they don't prioritize their hexes properly, and they don't cover their hexes properly. IV is a real dumb spell that you can put on anyone, anytime. That, however, doesn't mean it's much good.
The point of "I kill stuff with physicals", as Racthoh put it, isn't a valid one. I respect Racthoh, and I know he's a good PvE player. That said he does concentrate on physicals and if he was truly interested in optimizing his casters, he wouldn't run IV. No matter what your physical damage output is, you can't go _wrong_ with more damage or more utility. IV doesn't provide that utility. If Racthoh "kills stuff with physicals", as he says, then why would he run IV? IV is a damage spell, albeit a terrible one. The same thing holds for interrupts, knockdowns or whatever. You judge effect versus effect. Is GwK bad? YES, it's bad. That said I'd rather have a hero run GwK and manage maybe a KD or two every 20 seconds than waste time and energy spamming IV.
Regarding Weapon Of Fury: Yes, it's overkill. Still, Splinter Weapon recharges in 5 and the hero isn't going to be able to spam it over the entire party. WoF will also give "weapon" which makes for some trigger-spells being more effective. Incidentally, I'd rather run Warmonger's on a non-Elite bar than run IV as the elite. And it might be better to replace WoF with Warmonger's, or another Weapon spell.
Soul Leech will do better, focused damage than IV. It will also support the caster. SV will definitely do better, focused damage than IV. If you don't need chock amounts of adrenaline for whatever reason, OoV is a better spell as an elite than IV. IV often outputs damage when it is the least needed. All of these spells are far more economical than IV.
I have tried using IV for various things in PvE, and the only real use I've found for it has been farming Ornate Grawl Necklaces. There is almost no PvE build I can think of where I can't think of a superior replacement.
