What HM dungeon would you skip to get the title

Alright I'm planning on finishing off my Master of the North title track next week. I've finished vanquishing and missions in hm. The only thing I have left is the HM dungeons. Now because I'm done everything else I have enough points to be to skin one. Any advice on which one I should skip?

I'm not finding many people looking for groups so I've done most of it with the Sabs 3 necro build. Anyways here's the list I still have to do. You could also comment on the ones I've done, as to which you'd try to avoid if you did it all over / or failed at.

Darkrime Delves 5
Frostmaw's Burrows 6
Sepulchre of Dragrimmar 7
Raven's Point 8
Vloxen Excavations 9
Bogroot Growths 10
Bloodstone Caves 11
Oola's Lab 13
Arachni's Haunt 14
Heart of the Shiverpeaks 18


Done
Catacombs of Kathandrax 1
Rragar's Menagerie 2
Cathedral of Flames 3
Ooze Pit 4
Shards of Orr 12
Slaver's Exile 15
Fronis Irontoe's Lair 16
Secret Lair of the Snowmen 17


My comments
Exile might be a longer one but since it has a fixed build and a lot of groups doing it, it was rather easy...
So far Rragar's was my least favorite. Having to kill the charr Monk then the rez'mer was getting a little old. Probably would have been easier with a 600 monk / smitter not sure.

I really, really hate Vloxen Excavations.

I have it, Rrager's and Slavers' left to do (two for the title, all three to fill my book).

I'd skip them all if I could.

I have 4 left to do - rragar's, frostmaw, vloxen and slaver's. I've made an exploratory trip to each of them but frostmaw in HM, and while they all had their own special flavour of pain in the arse, I think Vloxen is the one I'd skip. I'm still planning on doing it though - want the extra rep from a fully completed book.

Mind if I derail, and ask how you went about things with H/H at Rragar's? I munched through most of lvl 1 when I took a lookie, but with one or two squishy deaths at each group pretty much, DP seemed to be accumulating fast. I seem to remember level 2 being the worst bit in NM too, so was wondering how that would shape up?

Darkrime Delves 5 - easy (h/h)
Frostmaw's Burrows 6 - can find a party for this one (not that hard)
Sepulchre of Dragrimmar 7 - easy (h/h)
Raven's Point 8 - haven't tried yet
Vloxen Excavations 9 - haven't tried yet
Bogroot Growths 10 - easy (h/h)
Bloodstone Caves 11 - easy (h/h)
Oola's Lab 13 - easy (h/h)
Arachni's Haunt 14 - easy (h/h)
Heart of the Shiverpeaks 18 - haven't tried yet

Well I got it on my second attempt. Got some of the kinks out for killing of the charr groups on my first attempt.

Lvl 1 first group is about the worst group. Pretty painfull really. But they actually died off really easier on my second attempt. I kept trying to over pull the groups. Some groups I'd take the agroo and leaved my group back a bit but in range. Other groups I'd ping the monk but hit the mesmer with pain inv then go back to the monk. Once the monk was down I hit the rez'mer then take out the monk a second time. I was also forcing the necro to prospirit me.

Only had issues with 1 group on the second level. It had 2 eles, monk and a rezmer next to a bridge. Gave up going after the monk and took out the eles first. Wasn't bad after that. Don't let the minion near the ooze necro.

When I overpull most groups they behaved and only hit me. (W with H/h) Had a 50 pack of honey combs to help out though... Lvl 2 took me about 2 hours I think.

Lvl 3 was easy except the the 2 consume corses bosses. You can actually run around most groups. But the fact they mixed up the groups made them easy by far to kill off. The 2 necros bosses took a while. The non boss necros pulled out easily but had issues killing off the rest.

I'm sure there's a far better way to do it then the way I did but it worked. I'm guessing a 600 / smitter would have done it much quicker. With some help.

Quote: Originally Posted by Proff

raven's point and heart of the shiverpeaks are both fine too. i believe frostmaw will be fine if you're a warrior as well (easier if you can control aggro yourself). So Vloxen is the only one that you have to worry about

Quote: Originally Posted by bifter

Just remembered I did Oola's Lab with a guildie, so you should be able to h/h but i had 6 heroes so idk. MM doesnt get any corpses so sabs build doesnt work, just bring standard anti melee heroes and you should be fine, rits help and air or earth eles make a difference too.

Quote: Originally Posted by Proff

Anyone try taking a 600 + smitter build in Vloxen?

Quote: Originally Posted by puffzilla

Vloxen and Shards of Orr are probably the hardest. Duncan is easier.

Hint for Vloxen, forget about Smiting. I suggest Mark of Pain + Assassin Support on several players, then they go boom instantly.

Shards of Orr! I really really really hate this one, the others were np

I was able to hench frostmaw HM and the rewards include some nice rare skin so include that one. I'd skip either volxen, kathandrax or Rrargar's. Each was its own little level of hell for HnH and no one groups for them.

Shards HM is doable if you can get a 600 smite to tank through it and have the group mop up the spillage with holy damage.

However, if you have enough coin for consumables, Rargar's and Vloxen are doable with HnH..... so maybe skip Kathandrax?

Shards of Orr is very easy with H/H in HM using the method detailed in the other thread (3* ray of judgment spike). It's possible to finish with full morale boost, having used no consumables. Seriously, nothing to worry about at all with this dungeon.

How feasible is henching Frostmaw HM as a caster? Strikes me that you really want to control aggro there, and that's always a pain to try to do with a hero.

I h+h Frostmaws in Hm a lot for the heck of it, it's not very hard. Just make sure you do the sweeping to pop all the wurms, flag your heroes out of yr aggro and release them once you got it. I use Sab's build there with the 2 ele and monk henchies. Even if you get dp from sweeping, you work it off so fast no consumables are needed.
The only 2 dungeons I haven't done and just can't seem to do with h+h, full human team (pugs, but still) or any other way are Rragars and Vloxen. If anyone has suggestions, I'd be grateful.

Shards of Orr was easy. I had friends doing the 600 runner for Cathedral of Flames so I asked him for help on that one. Pretty easy that way.

Kathandrax I did right after HM came out with some guildies since it was my least favorite in nm. But it turned out to be easier with a bit of help then it was doing it with heroes and henchies. I guess I learned a few leasons the first time through too.

Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Alynor

I found you can stretch the big group on the first level of Vloxen out (just about to where you kill the first boss). If you do this, and don't use melee, you can aggro lock the casters and whittle the group down one by one.

The first group on level 2 is the one I have trouble with though. Nowhere to run, so you have to go toe-to-toe. If it doesn't work out, they raise 20 minions which will never degen to death and it's GG.