Banning Bonanza : Plz Gaile Comment = NO QQ PLS

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Kashrlyyk
Kashrlyyk
Jungle Guide
#61
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Originally Posted by Operative 14
... If someone made a name in English that was offensive in German and they played in the German districts, I would hope that person would be cuaght. ...
That is actually the point, nothing would happen. As long as it is not rude in English, it is treated as being not rude at all.

The name of one of the bosses is the Polish word for arsehole.
NeHoMaR
NeHoMaR
Desert Nomad
#62
FAQ means Frequently Asked Questions, LOL.

http://www.guildwars.com/support/faq <----

BTW, banning a very old character for the name, when he was using the name for ages? lol? the logic is change name, but you can't = bullcrap.
Gaile Gray
Gaile Gray
ArenaNet
#63
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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
It would be kind of not fun if we get ban for a periodical storage cleaning.
I could not agree with you more. It's important that you be able to go about your business on your legitimate account, with legitimate actions, without worrying about a block. That is why this sort of "burp" in the system is so frustrating to those of us who work with the game. We know it shouldn't happen, but regretably, it does happen once in a great while. The good news is, we've stopped the process that caused this, we'll amend those accounts that were affected by this, and the processes put in place in the future will be improved by this lesson. If this situation has affected you or someone you know, get in touch with Support and we'll work it out.

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Originally Posted by NeHoMaR
BTW, banning a very old character for the name, when he was using the name for ages? lol? the logic is change name, but you can't = bullcrap.
But yes, if you're blocked, you can change your name. In fact, you must, and the time-out is very short. And why does using something that is offensive for XX period of time make it ok? That's like saying you steal from the bank every day for a year, and it's therefore insulting when you get caught and punished for doing so! Doing something wrong is wrong, and if it takes a while to be stopped, that does not suddenly make it right.

(I can't comment on the FAQ name. I can see where it could be harmless, or perceived as "creative spelling" for an offensive word..and believe me, I've seen a hundred for that particular word. I'd encourage the person using the name to discuss that matter with Support, as well.)

(Further, the comment about the Polish name: We've sent this over to the attention of the Polish translation team before, and the decision has been that the word/name in question is not an real issue. I will ask again, but this could be a matter here rumour, or someone making a misstatement, is driving the discussion.)
Kusandaa
Kusandaa
Forge Runner
#64
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Originally Posted by therangereminem
Frères D'Armes du Québec to abb it wont it be fdq not faq, you can tell its just a made up reason to complain about the banning of his account and him having to delete his account come on do you think we are dumb
Brothers of Arms of Quebec DOES NOT = FAQ either all he did was triwst it togather to make faq as a excuse to have the name as faq which is RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO and he knew it
Frères d'Armes du Québec.

F (Frère: "Brother" in English)
A (Armes: "Weapon", "Arms". the "d" does not count as a word so to speak, as it's an article contraction, "de" becomes "d'" when used with a noun that starts by a vowel - "of")
Q (Québec: province name. Once again the article doesn't count, in which case it's "du", meaning "of" again).

An excuse? No. Omitting articles in abbreviations is a common way to do so in French. It's when people assume too fast that people get banned for no reason.
Gaile Gray
Gaile Gray
ArenaNet
#65
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Originally Posted by Kusandaa
Frères d'Armes du Québec.

F (Frère: "Brother" in English)
A (Armes: "Weapon", "Arms". the "d" does not count as a word so to speak, as it's an article contraction, "de" becomes "d'" when used with a noun that starts by a vowel - "of")
Q (Québec: province name. Once again the article doesn't count, in which case it's "du", meaning "of" again).

An excuse? No. Omitting articles in abbreviations is a common way to do so in French. It's when people assume too fast that people get banned for no reason.
May I ask: Isn't it redundant to have Q for Quebec and repeat the Quebec? Would FAQ Quebec be rather like saying "Brotherhood in Arms Arms?" Maybe that's the question in people's minds.
Kashrlyyk
Kashrlyyk
Jungle Guide
#66
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
...What has occured here is that the people working on the reports are setting blocks based on incomplete information. ....
That is the proof that people get banned without a good check of what has happened.


If you want to convince people that there is no script banning people, you have to lay open the complete banning process.
undeadgun
undeadgun
Forge Runner
#67
ty Gaile for look into this issue, i have just got unbanned couple hours ago, and they told me was an error blocked my account, but thank goodness i can play now, i hope those who got wrongly banned just be patient, if you did nothing wrong, your account will be lifted soon
CHunterX
CHunterX
Wilds Pathfinder
#68
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
But yes, if you're blocked, you can change your name. In fact, you must, and the time-out is very short. And why does using something that is offensive for XX period of time make it ok?
Not all names were offensive in the native language of the user who created it.
I have one question about being "blocked," though: According to reports of players who have been blocked for "inappropriate" names, they are given a 72-hour block in addition to the forced character name change. Now, once they change their name, is the remaining 72-hour block removed?

I find this 72-hour block a bit as an over-punishment either way. Sure, the people who name their characters 'A Z Z' or 'Beo Tch' do sort of deserve the block, but you are going to end up catching players like 'Faq' offguard, because they honestly didn't see anything wrong with the name, and have had it for quite a long time. If you (Areanet in general) had been keeping up with these blocks from the beginning, sure, I could understand the block because we would have begun playing with more awareness to our names, but to implement a block now feels too late.

(And really, do you have to call it block instead of temp-ban? Everytime you say it, I think of )
Redfeather1975
Redfeather1975
Forge Runner
#69
On my world every name I see in game sounds like a curse word.
Of course my people have 1,987,298,520 curse words.
We have large thumbs and do everything with hammers.

That is all.
pumpkin pie
pumpkin pie
Furnace Stoker
#70
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
I could not agree with you more. It's important that you be able to go about your business on your legitimate account, with legitimate actions, without worrying about a block. That is why this sort of "burp" in the system is so frustrating to those of us who work with the game. We know it shouldn't happen, but regretably, it does happen once in a great while. The good news is, we've stopped the process that caused this, we'll amend those accounts that were affected by this, and the processes put in place in the future will be improved by this lesson. If this situation has affected you or someone you know, get in touch with Support and we'll work it out.
Thanks Gaile Gray, for the reply. Am glad you and Anet is taking this matter seriously, must be a lot of work to monitor so many accounts. Glad to know the banning process/system is being improved.

And, no, it did not happen to me of someone I know, just letting Anet knows that there are players who do transfer stuffs among themselves so that the banning system can be improved with that in mind.
NeHoMaR
NeHoMaR
Desert Nomad
#71
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
But yes, if you're blocked, you can change your name. In fact, you must, and the time-out is very short.
Hmm, good to know it's possible to change name. Sorry for the "bullcrap" comment, threads like this one confuse my mind.
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
And why does using something that is offensive for XX period of time make it ok? That's like saying you steal from the bank every day for a year, and it's therefore insulting when you get caught and punished for doing so! Doing something wrong is wrong, and if it takes a while to be stopped, that does not suddenly make it right.
Well, not if stealing from a bank is not illegal for that year and suddenly turn to illegal.
KANE OG
KANE OG
Banned
#72
Soooooo, you get rid of bots by temporarily blocking accounts? How does that work?

KANE
cosyfiep
cosyfiep
are we there yet?
#73
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
...we'll amend those accounts that were affected by this, and the processes put in place in the future will be improved by this lesson.....

what exactly does 'amend' mean.....'I'm sorry you were banned, now run along', or what can you do to give these people back the time you incorrectly took from them????

I have not transfered stuff from my account with my hubby account just because I feared banning due to this mistake, what compensation would you have given me for that besides 'oooooops, we made a mistake!'?????
I still worry that we transfer things all the time without usually giving things back (one sided trades) that someday the powers that be will hit us and then we will both have to write, no plead, with the auto responders to get a real live person to look and see that we have the same IP --seeing as we live in the same house-- and that we are innocent of any wrong doing......its just not right. (and the comment about not having complete information gives me the willies).

I am glad that they are 'fixing' this bug, but seeing as its still people looking over the whole thing and people make mistakes I am still not comforted that it wont happen again. (and again......)
undeadgun
undeadgun
Forge Runner
#74
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Originally Posted by cosyfiep
what exactly does 'amend' mean.....'I'm sorry you were banned, now run along', or what can you do to give these people back the time you incorrectly took from them????

I have not transfered stuff from my account with my hubby account just because I feared banning due to this mistake, what compensation would you have given me for that besides 'oooooops, we made a mistake!'?????
I still worry that we transfer things all the time without usually giving things back (one sided trades) that someday the powers that be will hit us and then we will both have to write, no plead, with the auto responders to get a real live person to look and see that we have the same IP --seeing as we live in the same house-- and that we are innocent of any wrong doing......its just not right. (and the comment about not having complete information gives me the willies).

I am glad that they are 'fixing' this bug, but seeing as its still people looking over the whole thing and people make mistakes I am still not comforted that it wont happen again. (and again......)
well, at least they did apologize to me
Drop of Fear
Drop of Fear
Forge Runner
#75
indeed the "fear" to be wrongfully banned is preventing me from doing many things in the game.

once in a while i used to buy a thousand lockpicks at the discount trader and go to kamadan selling for the same 1.2k price at random ppl. now i had to stop that fearing that ppl might hit /report for selling duped lockpicks
"how many lockpicks u have?" "as many as u want" "whaaat? u duper of lps reporting u"

i run loads of HM chests, and i sell all the elite tomes once a week when i have 60-70. again, not doing chestrun anymore under the risk to be seen as a bot/duper/whatever.

thank god i'm done with kurzick fff, but i'm hearing of many people reported for botting because they always enter in town, target the melandru flag and run out over and over. (and i believe many of these do use bots for real, but i farmed my saviour like that and i realize now i did look like a bot most of the time).

i'm not running pugs anymore as people might be high and start reporting the first time u die... i only play with ppl i know or -better- heroes/henches. (and i actualy enjoyed playing with new people)

i'm not holding any ecto EVER fearing it may be duped and may lead me in the massban when a.net finaly realize stacks and stacks of duped items escaped the previous banfest.

when i trade i use a 2nd account because u always fear someone might be upset and report u for "insert any stupid reason here" making u waste time to contact support to be unbanned...

i have no need to identify gold items as i have 11k + already, so i sell the ones i have for the usual 7vs4k NOT IN ASCALON INT1. suspicious behaviour? go tell me... i have 500 unids stored now because i fear to sell them

it's becoming ridiculous
VitisVinifera
VitisVinifera
Banned
#76
dont forget, we can't afk in 9 rings during boardwalk weekends.......because we are.......afk bots or something

those multiple mass bannings were fun

"We know it shouldn't happen, but regretably, it does happen once in a great while."


yeah.....so......Gaile has a very short memory when it comes to these persistent mass banning debacles
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Vanye Truelight
Pre-Searing Cadet
#77
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Originally Posted by lucifer_uk
Or if you speak in a welsh accent it sounds exactly like ...

Edit: Damn you again Brianna <_< your too fast
With a name like yours allowed what is wrong with Faq? Your name should be banned.
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Sekoria
Ascalonian Squire
#78
As long as Anet doesn't ask the banned players informations about the reason they should be banned, Anet's way of banning will always be a farce. I mean, it's the principle of "Guilty until proved innocent." and some people may have a hard time doing that.

Anet doesn't have to write a novel each time they want to get information : you could just whisper the guy once or something and just ask some info from him. Like, I dunno... human beings?

I never got banned or whatever, since I almost never farm and being very polite, but I don't like any kind of "agressive" banning of this kind.
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henry
Ascalonian Squire
#79
For what it is worth, a quick search of four different online Polish to English dictionaries showed "dupek" (as in Dupek the Mighty) to translate to English as "asshole."

Lesson? If you're going to be vulgar, at least be obscure.
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Antheus
Forge Runner
#80
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indeed the "fear" to be wrongfully banned is preventing me from doing many things in the game.

....

it's becoming ridiculous
Being that afraid in-game is unreasonable. People aren't getting banned like that - those that are either deserve it, or are banned by mistake.

Also, most of these "bans" are 3-day suspensions. Not perma-bans.

But being that afraid is very unusual. In a serious way.