Frenzy,rush,heal sig question

hey there,

There might be a thread like this...somewhere, but ill ask anyway.

What is so good at having;

Frenzy, Rush and heal sig in the same skill bar?

I understand that you use frenzy to build adren and then cancel with rush...
What if, for some crazy reason, an air ele decides to Lightning Hammer you??
or just Lightning strike you, that is like 100-200 dmg right there, not counting armor penetration.

Then there is heal sig. Almost 90% of people i see in forums, tell the person who has lion's comfort in their build to change it to heal sig. Why?

When you look at the 2 Lion's comfort, for me, comes out on top.
1. You basiclly always have adrenaline, unless a mes decides to bring sympithetic visage or the other adren drain thing.
2. its a quick cast, 1sec instead of the heal sigs 2.
3. If you compare the heal, if you have 9str and 9 tactics, heal sig only gives u 2hp more then lion's comfort, but if you are getting attacked the heal is almost gone.

Now I have been playing as a warrior since GW day 1, I have been using heal sig until nightfall came out, and then I switched to lion's comfort, IMO it works waay better then heal sig...

So if someone could explain why frenzy is favored over some of the other aspd skills and why lion's comfort is looked down on that would be great.

(if there is a topic on this already, link plz)

Frenzy is bad in PvE. Flail is superior.

Lions comfort and heal sig are about the same in PvE.

Frenzy is good in PvP because there are no drawbacks if you're not bad. An ele with lightning hammer is bad. As soon as you see any threat towards you, rush. Healsig is good in PvP because you don't need adrenaline. Oftentimes, you'll need to heal yourself more than once, and healsig can do that. Lions comfort requires you to get more adrenaline before using it again (in which case you're probably dead).

Lion's Comfort is smaller heal than Healing Signet unless you screw up your attributes badly enough to make it better. Lion's Comfort also drains adrenaline for other things you need (Eviscerate). If you use Healing Signet smartly, it will outperform Lion's Comfort every time.

IAS is simply required, and Frenzy is the best PvP-oriented IAS skill in the game. Its 33%, and its duration covers its recharge with no investment in some crappy attribute. As a Warrior, the only things you really need to worry about getting double damage on you are armor-ignoring things like Clumsiness/Ineptitude, some Smiting, and some of the harder-hitting Ele spells. A Ranger auto-attacking for 3 damage normally still only hits for 6. Similar with other Warriors. There's almost always some margin for error in my experience.

Rush is there to cancel Frenzy when the heat gets too much to allow double damage. Rush beats Sprint or Enraging Charge in this regard because Rush costs 4 adrenaline and has no recharge; you'll rarely have trouble canceling Frenzy right when you need to.

Generally heal sig is not worth bringing in pvp combat situations. I would only bring it if you plan to be splitting in gvg without healing often. Otherwise, even in ra. I would say that it isn't worth it. Even just shock and dchop is enough to keep you alive if you get attacked, at least for a while. And when you do get a monk, heal sig is pretty much just a liability with the lost skill slot and att points. As for frenzy and rush, yes. And lions comfort is not very good.

I use frenzy in PvE when I use my shock frenzy build.There is nothing wrong with using frenzy in PvE as you know what you are doing.

Tbh, if your running a high adreneline W/X Build Eg:
Eviscerate, Executions,Disrupting, Bull's Strike, Frenzy, Rush, Heal Sig, Res sig.
Then i'd recommend dropping All your tactics, switching to W/D and swapping Heal sig for Natural Healing.

Also Lion's Comfort disables all signets for 12(?)seconds, thus if you needed to rez in that time, your buggered.
I usually use Lion's if any heal in PvE where its more relaxed, but in PvP streamlining counts, you have to have the best combination of skills you can have.

~A Leprechaun~

PvE = Flail, and tbh you don't need self heal.
PvP= Frenzy (Simply cause it's best IAS for PvP, no drawbacks unless you plan to constant Frenzy in which case you are dead). And as for healing, I don't like to bring neither Heal Sig nor Lion's since I normally don't put anything into tactics (Shock Axe build doesn't require any tactics).

Quote: Originally Posted by 6am3 Fana71c

well since i dont have access to flail and i really dont like frenzy in pvp becuz i just cant win against other meele classes i gotta use tiger stance >.<

you shouldnt be fighting other meele classes unless you are backllining..go for squishys

hmm ok...but if frenzy is a gread IAS then lion's comfort should not be a problem, besides i dont use sigs, Res chant or renew life ftw!(I run pure adren builds, dono why mesmers dont carry soothing images and ignorance in RA, i mean honestly with those 2 skills a warrior is down to reg attk for w/e seconds.

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I like to use flurry