PC Gamer Gives GW:EN a 68%

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Big_Iron
Big_Iron
Desert Nomad
#1
I'm kind of surprised this hasn't been posted yet (yes, I searched). To sum up, without breaking any copyright laws:

Pros: Lots of new content.
Cons: Poor rewards and too difficult for the casual player
Bottom Line: GW:EN doesn't live up to its expectations

No. 168
Dec. 2007
Volume 14
Number 12

Remember, a 68% is "above average" on the PCG scale. It's not bad, but it ain't great either.

It's not on line yet, so no need to look there...unless you really want to.
Havre Fras
Havre Fras
Lion's Arch Merchant
#2
More than i'd have given it. By a whole 3%, that is.

Speaking of PCG did they ever rate Big Rigs?
Bryant Again
Bryant Again
Hall Hero
#3
PC Gamer? The same people who created the Ultimate Guild Wars Guide and the GW2 issue?

Ouch.
Jumping Is Uselss
Jumping Is Uselss
Jungle Guide
#4
I've checked other game reviewer sites and they all gave Eye of the north above average ratings. IGN gave it 7.9/10 and Gamespot gave it 8.0/10. I guess its above average rating fits it. GW:EN didn't really excite me much, and HoM was a disappointment.
Zeek Aran
Zeek Aran
Forge Runner
#5
1: Pros: Lots of new content.
2: Cons: Poor rewards and too difficult for the casual player

1: Wrong
2: Wrong

D:
Vinraith
Vinraith
Desert Nomad
#6
Quote:
too difficult for the casual player
That's their primary complaint? Wow. Just wow. At least, unlike the average Guru poster, they realize just how much content there really is. 18 multi-hour dungeons, 11 missions, a metric ton of side quests, people that scream "it's too short" are just doing the main quest and ignoring the bulk of the game.

What problems there were with GWEN have, IMO, largely been resolved by the updates to title rank rewards. At this point it's a hell of a lot of fun. I've spent more time playing it with my primary than I ever did playing Factions and unlike Factions there's a lot left to be done in GWEN.
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Dante the Warlord
Desert Nomad
#7
Well i hardly anyone in this forum can argue the casual gamer point since the fact we have a guildwarsguru account marks us an above average gamer. GWEN was a dissapointment im not going to lie. I was really excited when they announced that they would have new bonueses or something for lvl 20 players. The only thing that happened was we had to be lvl 20 to play GWEN, i was dissapointed. However, the best thing of this game was the preorder. Having EVERYTHING transfered and keeping the goods was awesome.
Mohnzh
Mohnzh
Krytan Explorer
#8
Wasn't GW:EN advertised as being pseudo-elite? It was promoted as being more challenging than any of the other three campaigns. If so, why would "too difficult for the casual player" be listed as a con? It's also a bad idea to use such an abstract measuring stick as casual player. I do not find GWEN challenging. I do not consider myself as casual, but neither hardcore. 5 hours a week tops (if I get to play at all)? What do you think? But I used to play a lot more. Who is to say what a casual player can do? If someone only plays a few hours maybe two or three times a month, then most likely that person cannot access GWEN anyway. Unless you had yourself run through all the hard missions, GWEN should not be too bad. Or is casual determined by how long you can play at any given time? 15 minutes at a time cannot do anything in any campaign. An hour? maybe a couple of quests or a mission. There are a few places in GWEN that require a few hours of time, but aren't they usually optional dungeons? I would say GWEN was promoted as a game for people who were really into GW. The fact that they made it that way is a pro, not a con.
Alexandra-Sweet
Alexandra-Sweet
Wilds Pathfinder
#9
lets hope Arena Net will learn from their mistakes.

If Guild Wars 2 has the same bugs and issues like the current Guild Wars I would really be dissappointed.
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Sniper22
Wilds Pathfinder
#10
Wow, are you serious? I actually thought that GW:EN was the best expansion ever. Yes it's kinda short, but I don't feel like I have to rush through it and some of the quests are actually kind of cool. There is a bunch of dungeons, I beat mhenlo in a 55 duel, got rank spammed by charr, saw Lina get run over by a boulder.... IMO this stuff is pretty cool. Seems like people are complaining about getting r5 titles for armor and stuff, but it doesn't seem that hard cause 3/4 titles (not dwarf) are already 3+ just by doing the main quests and a few side quests, so scraping up a few more points to get 5 won't be that hard. My only complaint about GW:EN is that the main story line is a little short, but then again i paid $10 less.
Symeon
Symeon
Forge Runner
#11
PC Gamer PROTIP:

Healing Breeze is good for keeping you alive!
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lutz
Jungle Guide
#12
1. Too little new content.
2. Difficulty is just right. Difficult for new players, and moderate for Hero-Henching without imba N/Rt builds.
trobinson97
trobinson97
Wilds Pathfinder
#13
Quote:
Originally Posted by King Symeon
PC Gamer PROTIP:

Healing Breeze is good for keeping you alive!

That's true. It's not like they stated it's the best skill for that purpose.
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Red Sonya
Desert Nomad
#14
They rated it about what I would have rated it had I been a rater. But, GW has been goin downhill since Prophecies so it's no wonder really or a surprise that the scores went down. GW is a hasbeen and now GW2 is all the excitement.
Zinger314
Zinger314
Debbie Downer
#15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
PC Gamer? The same people who were paid an inordinate sum by NCSoft to relentlessly praise GW through the Ultimate Guild Wars Guide and the GW2 issue?

Ouch.
Edited for truthery.
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Sir Green Aluminum
Frost Gate Guardian
#16
It was an overhyped piece of small content. The only goodies were the ability to reserve names and your stuff to Guild Wars 2 and the short story. If it got above average, what more could you want?
Jecht Scye
Jecht Scye
Wilds Pathfinder
#17
Quote:
too difficult for the casual player
With the builds they gave you in that magazine, no wonder why they think it's "too difficult."
Mordakai
Mordakai
Grotto Attendant
#18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Edited for truthery.
And Zinger knows about that, he gets paid by Blizzard...
WinterSnowblind
WinterSnowblind
Jungle Guide
#19
I'm glad they at least acknowledged the amount of content in the game. Do you guys actually think there is too little content in the game, or are you just going with what everyone else says?

But "too difficult for casual players"? It does seem a lot of newer players have been complaining about the difficulty, but I always thought that's what Guild Wars was about. Skill. It doesn't hold your hand through out the entire game. And compared to the previous GW chapter, GW:EN was very tame.
Longasc
Longasc
Forge Runner
#20
GW:EN had so much potential.

It will always be remembered as "what Chapter IV could have been". If they had not decided only to release what was leftover, call it expansion and go on with GW2.

Seriously, GW:EN fails in many aspects, but the greater Tyria map and some areas (more the overland, surprisingly better than the repetitive dungeons) are really showing what could have been done.

Sigh. And now we have so much empty space around the Verdant Cascades.