Syncing and view of the average guildwars player

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Shadowmoon
Shadowmoon
Wilds Pathfinder
#1
Alot of yall know syncing has been around for a long time. Me and my friends have done it for some of the costume brawl. After rolling a number of teams just because of the added organization added by players you actually know, i wonder if this should be fixed or it just part of the game similar to death leveling in presearing? I'm just wondering what the average player feels about syncing, may it be in RA or special events like costume bawl, snow fight, or beetle racing.
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Antheus
Forge Runner
#2
Syncing is "cheating" in the respect that it allows you to have an almost guaranteed above par team in an inherently disorganized gameplay.

I have no problem with that whatsoever, since these teams aren't even remotely invincible. RA guarantees there is no major meta game going on, and you can always find odd counters.

Then again, there are some people who are convinced that doing so makes them great pvpers, since they win more often than they lose. Good for them, or something.

Anything random was never considered a big deal of any kind.

And average players don't post on forums, so you won't find their feedback here.
Fril Estelin
Fril Estelin
So Serious...
#3
For CB, this seems ridiculous, because the event was created so that we can have "fun". They look like overcompetitive children who want to "pwn" you. This is competitive play, but also FUN. Unless these guys are perverts who enjoy making people ridiculous (doubt it!) or cannot feel "fun" if they loose?
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Personette
Lion's Arch Merchant
#4
But it's even more "fun" to do the fun little side-games with guildies. On top of which, every guildie in your team is one less person who leaves when the score is 9:6 in someone else's favor.
Burst Cancel
Burst Cancel
Desert Nomad
#5
Synching makes sense for event arenas like CB, but does not make sense for RA. The reason is because the event arenas do not have an organized alternative - there is no "team arena" for snowball fighting, costume brawl, etc. Therefore, if I actually want to play the event game with competent people and/or with my friends, the only way to do so is to 321join.

@Fril: "Fun" doesn't mean you stop caring about things like competency. Playing with people who don't know what they're doing isn't actually much fun - it's just frustrating. It has nothing to do with being competitive or not - even when there's nothing at stake, it's just more fun to play when you and everyone around you knows what they're doing.
Master Ketsu
Master Ketsu
Desert Nomad
#6
Syncing = Cheating.

FYI: The most used Game designers definition of cheating is "Anything that exploits the game in order to act differantly in terms of advantages/disadvantages then the designer intended"

Anet's designers designed Brawl to be random. Any exploit to get around that is cheating.

Technically, even in random arena, leaving/rejoining until you get a monk is also cheating.
DreamRunner
DreamRunner
Krytan Explorer
#7
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fril Estelin
For CB, this seems ridiculous, because the event was created so that we can have "fun". They look like overcompetitive children who want to "pwn" you. This is competitive play, but also FUN. Unless these guys are perverts who enjoy making people ridiculous (doubt it!) or cannot feel "fun" if they loose?
People play to win. Sure its fun to play, but everyone in there wants to win. However If you want to generalize people then fine, but I can do that too. The people who want to go into CB and have it random, are the ones that hate sync. They're also usually ones that got beaten by a better organized team and are in-denial by the fact a better team won.
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Malice Black
Site Legend
#8
Syncing is cheating. It's that simple.

Can't deal with the randomness? don't play the game
Zinger314
Zinger314
Debbie Downer
#9
Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
Can't deal with the randomness? don't play life
Edited for truthery.
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Malice Black
Site Legend
#10
lol Zinger....quality edit
YunSooJin
YunSooJin
Pyromaniac
#11
Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
Syncing is cheating. It's that simple.

Can't deal with the randomness? don't play the game
Or I can not care what you think and sync and still play the game.

gg?
Fril Estelin
Fril Estelin
So Serious...
#12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Personette
But it's even more "fun" to do the fun little side-games with guildies. On top of which, every guildie in your team is one less person who leaves when the score is 9:6 in someone else's favor.
"Our" fun against "their" fun, what a great attitude for a change!

It was supposed to be Random Arena.
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Chthon
Grotto Attendant
#13
It's cheating, period.
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reddswitch
Academy Page
#14
I pointed out sync'ers in it early on. Costume Brawl looks like it was set up for random participants. Similar to random arena you're probably not supposed to sync. It's yet another half assed event game which won't change next time, like the other event games.
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Malice Black
Site Legend
#15
Quote:
Originally Posted by YunSooJin
Or I can not care what you think and sync and still play the game.

gg?
Sync if you want..just proves you're not good enough to deal with the randomness of it.

"I play to win" <~~yeah ok *snore*
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Antheus
Forge Runner
#16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
Sync if you want..just proves you're not good enough to deal with the randomness of it.

"I play to win" <~~yeah ok *snore*
Truth be told, the competitive aspect is a bit annoying in RA.

- glad points
- progression
- TA in the end

Some builds which are godly in RA are horrible in TA. Although I doubt many plan to stay for TA if they start in RA.

Since the only reward is 5 or 10 consecutives, there is a desire to have a good team.

If RA were single match, then there would be less emphasis on team. But with current design, guaranteeing a benefit for your own side to farm those 3 glad points does make sense in some way. And to feel leet of course.

Syncing in various events, snowball arena or costume brawls however brings back that old quote about winning special olympics.
Zeek Aran
Zeek Aran
Forge Runner
#17
I think you people are too serious about winning then. o.O I prefer my random 'Hey look an alliance member!' option.
cosyfiep
cosyfiep
are we there yet?
#18
people who do 'snycing' (now thats a catchy title) make the game for the rest of us NOT fun.....I stopped playing the snowball fights cause of teams that did that, I have also found that the CB has gone that way as well......
I dont pvp and this is one of the few places for us pve people to try out pvp without having to be 'leet' to get a few victories. If you need to be 'leet' go back to pvp and let us pve people have some fun.
Shadowmoon
Shadowmoon
Wilds Pathfinder
#19
Personally i think the main motivation for this is the gamer title, a title that could only during very limiting periods of time. If Glad title was moved out of RA, i can 100% say there will be no more syncing there as well. Titles pushes people to do the most profitable means to gain them.
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wu is me
Krytan Explorer
#20
I think syncing isn't really a problem, esp if theres a lot of ppl playing. I tried to sync with ONE friend once in RA and out of 10 attempts, none of them yielded results.
If it's all about randomness, then if a group successfully syncs, I think its just lucky for them given that the brawl is hugely successful, and the chances of success are quite slim.