Kaineng City- nightmare

Okay, so it has been just about a week since I started GW, and I just got my first Factions character to Kaineng City. She's a lvl 17 Ritualist/Ranger with 45 AR sets, and almost every time I go out out to any explorable area, I get my butt kicked SO hard.

Usually what happens is that as soon as a group of either Afflicted or Jade guys (about 8 or more) are aggroed, they seem to come for me and usually 3-4 shot me. To make it worse my PC seems to have a bit of problem handling the heavy graphic of this place and I am in half slow motion... I guess I still don't really understand the aggro system well in this game, but even if I just stand still in a distance w/o attacking or healing to see what happens, I still aggro.

During the combat I am usually too busy trying to defend myself by being inside the circle of the mage's anti-melee thingy or spawning defensive spirits etc, and barely have the time to go offensive although I find the channeling spells quite interesting and would like to explore more.

I read some of the posts about Factions but it seems like most people are finding Kaineng area an easy EXP farm place. Well... not for me... I am having a hard time even with max number of henchmen with me.
Would anyone be able to point out what seems to be wrong, is it the aggro, strategy, level, or am I simply bad lol...

Oh and by the way, is it possible to skip this city area and go to the forest or the Jade Sea?

The main problem is your armor level, 45 is to low. Go to Kaineng Center (North of the Marketplace) and get some new armor there (60Ar).
That should make life a lot easier for you

There're max armor crafters there at Kaineng, get a new armor set asap. Look up wiki for some easy to do quests around there and get to lv20 before you go any further.

Check Un-official Wiki, Official Wiki for guides for new players and how the AI works in this game.



Nope, no way to skip it and if you think Kaineng is hard, don't be surprised if you get owned in The Jade Sea or Echovald Forest.

Also check your health i.e. HP....enemy AI seems to go for those with lower health.

Oh... it's the armor. Hmm, don't they cost 1k per piece? That's a bit expensive for someone who only has about 4k I guess I could get the ones from those collectors around the area. But to farm the mobs for the tokens I guess I still need some decent armor to wear... oh well, I will try. Thanks for pointing that out!

And about getting to level 20 asap before going any further, I am confused because I see some level 10s or even lower in Keineng city, and they are Factions chars so they must've got there somehow... and some are below level 15 and doing quests in the area. I guess they are on their way to other connected areas like Tyria or something.

One of the first things you should do now that you're on the Canthan mainland is to get yourself into a set of max armor. From The Marketplace, head north and stay close to the coastline until you reach Kaineng Center. You can get some max armor there.

Another thing that will help you is bringing along both the monk and the ritualist henchmen. Both of them are capable healers and can do the majority of party support for you, which will let you focus a little more on damage.


And unfortunately, it is not possible to skip areas in Factions. To open up new areas, your only option is to complete the missions.

The city is multi level in places that's how you sometimes get the enemies coming at you from above on ropes.
The agro circle is shown on the maps however if one of your party moves ahead or attacks then that causes agro, some bows have long range.
Also some groups are patroling anyway so may move into your agro circle.

The afflicted take a little getting used to and you better get used to them because there are a load of em.
Using a bow to pull one or two enemies is a good method but with heroes its almost impossible.
As they rush forward as you fire you end up firing and running away while the arrow is still in the air.
Heroes and real people make it a lot easier as you tell them to stand in a spot while you agro small numbers.

There is no way to avoid the city and get to the other areas besides ascending and being able to change secondary class will be usefull and that's all in the city.

Hi and welcome to Guild Wars!

• The Guild Wars Wiki is a great place to start learning about the subtle (and not so subtle) mechanics of the game.
  
  http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Main_Page

• The Unofficial GuildWiki is also a great (and an often more complete) source of information.
  
  http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Main_Page

You may want to read these articles (and sub-articles) in particular:

• Getting started in Factions: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Getting...%28Factions%29

• The Ritualist: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ritualist

• Ritualist Armor (you need to get a 60 Armor suit): http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ritualist_armor

• Aggro: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Aggro

Do note that the Ritualist is generally considered to be a more "advanced" profession that takes longer to master and doesn't have a very distinct role, but is very versatile instead. Not that other professions are necessarily easier to play, just more straightforward (Warriors are melee fighters who can take a lot of damage, Elementalists are spellcasters who inflict a lot of damage, Monks are healers and protectors etc.).

The true beauty of Guild Wars is that it allows you to break the mold for each and every profession, but this process will take some time for you to master as well.



At this point, the best advice I can give you is to ask for help in-game and hopefully find a beginner-oriented guild that is willing to learn you the ropes.

It will take a lot of time for you to learn everything by trial and error, a helpful hand could speed up this process.



In the end: DON'T PANIC! (I would make this huge and red if I could)

Guild Wars is not a difficult game per se, only very elaborate (and sometimes confusing, even to veteran players), but one that is extremely rewarding in terms of time and effort invested.



Have fun and happy exploring!

You can get to Kaineng city from the Market place without having to fight anything, just take the back street. The same can be said about most of the "go there, run back, go over there again" quests in that area, minimum combat if you know your way around.

Also the enemies AI will taget the team member with the lowest armor and health, so that would make you their big fat target.

As far as not having enough for a full set of armor all at once. It's better to get a couple pieces if you can.. like torso and legs.. Those are the main target areas and the most often hit. I'd imagine your survivability would go up a bit just from upgrading those two parts first.


About the level thing.. Just because there are lvl 10s or whatever running around, doesn't make it the best idea. I'd imagine you'll find that most of those are characters from established players who could afford max everything as soon as they hit the area. As a new player without much of a bank account, I'd definitely advise you get to level 20 asap for the hitpoints. Low HP and low armor in KC is like wearing a huge neon sign that saya "EXTRA SQUISHY...KILL ME!!"

The may have had a guildie run them through the island missions to get to KC early. From the market its a quick run to k center where they can get better armor and then go back to Shing Jea with an advantage for the harder quests.

Also - if you are in a guild you might have some of your guildies check your skill bar. They may have suggestions on early skills that can be more effectively used to help you survive. The right skills can make a huge difference.

Getting Max Armor (60 for a Ritualist) really should be your top priority. Just save up your money from Quests and Missions, you'll get there soon.

Don't spend your money needlessly on Dyes, Tomes, Weapons or other luxury items. At this point, stick with getting Armor and Skills from the Trainers.


And don't mind the lower level characters who are already in Kaineng, most of them are veteran players rushing a new character to 20 as fast as possible (Factions is the fastest leveling campaign of the three).

Wow, I got loads of helpful replies here in a matter of minutes First of all thanks to Lagg for a very nice introduction and links, and everyone else for pointing out what has to be changed.

As for the aggro, it was a bit of a surprise to me that AI will generally go for someone with lowest health and AR, I think I really should get WoW out of my head and learn this new game as I tend to not look up those things and think the game systems are similar to WoW (which I played for about 2 years and recently quit. )

yeah seriously get max armor for ur ranger +60 and use Sister Tai and Prof Gai bot h good support healers for u

after that use troll urgent and defensive skills lol u might live..

PS use longbow less deaths for u that way

always kill rits first Flesh of my flesh (annoying soft res used by enemies afflicted etc) is annoying and then monks

You can get to level 20 without personally fighting at all... easily.


First of all... be selective about the henchies you bring with you. Take Sister Tai and Professor Gai while you're in the opening areas (until you get the second Monk Henchie or Heroes)... The rest in fact shouldn't be too important.

The route from the Marketplace to Kaineng Center only involves ONE "mandatory" fight with a small few afflicted, and even that can be avoided.
Kaineng Center has TONS of quests for you to do.... and strangely enough, quite a few either involve no fighting at all or just the one comparitively weak enemy.
Furthermore... if you kill the group of THREE Jade Brotherhood upon entering Waijun Bazaar under the first quest for Bujo (to get their capes), you can get the quest to neutralise ALL the Am Fah in Waijun Bazaar and enable you to walk through the entire area on one side totally without harm.... giving you access to complete even more quests.

If you're careful, the only fighting you'll have to do will be with very small groups, and the henchies alone can take care of those.

Best way to survive: Go around killing stuff so you can afford your first max (60 ) Armor. Best way to do this: Set your Rt up for Spirit Spirit spamming. Before combat, laydown 3+ spirits. Then target with ctr+ double click. Then let let the henchies + spirits take out the group. Repeat until done. Also do all the quests you can find. Lots of 3K exp quests makes you lvl 20 very fast.

yeah factions sucks like that...they throw you up against lvl20 mobs at level 12..

Hmm strange all my Factions Chars were lvl 18 at Zen Dajiun. UR doing it wrong.

*tip do all the quests on the starter island. Also do all the secondary training quests. This will get you lvl 10+ on the first mission.

not really a big deal. the henchmen can handle the mobs. i usually stay back and reap the xp they sow.