Should there be at least one more major skill balance?

I want CoP to return energy when i use it^^ i just recently fell in love with this skill when i was using it with smiters boon and divine boon, so much fun with that build.

You missed my logic stream in there. I said skill balances matter. But what exactly they are "doesn't" in terms of this forum because people will still whine about it.

True, but hopefully you get a different group whining each time.

one things for sure , dwarven battle stance will get buffed

GO figure, a PvE build winning halls and GvG. HAHA

And if you cant win with the skills you have now go back to RA.

Uhh...where did you get that from? It was a PvP build which I adapted to PvE. Avarre said that in the post you quoted, and it was mentioned again in the link. Please read.

Whoa finally. I mean its been how long since GW:EN has been out? I really hoping some of the big issues are dealt with, but anet doing something decent for the pvp community isn't likely going to happen, not to mention many have already given up.

Most of the better PvE builds are taken from PvP. Like that one. Of course, if you looked outside your bubble-world or actually read the post where it was said the build was an HA build adapted to PvE, you'd know that.

Lol...didn't even see that, so no it was not intended.

Just out of curiosity, since I don't know...did this build come out of GvG speficically made for heroes or were these builds used by actual people in PvP before they were used for the heroes?

Came from HA IIRC, then heroes were used for the Necromancer stuff because the AI was so good at it, that it became known as Heroway.

Pull your head outa the bubble. As Sab herself said she changed it to a PvE build. Open that closed mind it does help some. Incase you still dont get it. it was a PvP build till the skills were changed and adapted for PvE then making it a PvE build.

Yes which makes it a PvE build. read what yourselfs wrote.

The others already quoted that TERRIBLE first part of your post, so I'd just question you about this part. WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?! I win PvE first time every time, aside from Hard Mode which takes some slight test runs on occasion. As for PvP, I have been doing HA all day and have been reasonably successful, so I don't know what you mean there either.

Do you even have an argument? Or just stupid 1 line replies that make NO sense and fail to even acknowledge the original issue of this thread? Bad troll is bad. Such amateurs these days.


As for the Gaile quote, I'm glad that was said. We all assumed balances soon, so next week is fine for me :P

I can't tell if you're being intentionally dumb, or if you actually can't grasp the concept that the N/Rt builds are PvP builds.

The Jagged Bones build became popular in 6v6 HA, where it was designed to take down dual-Para holding teams which were popular at the time. It was all run by humans back then, as there something on each character that needed human control (e.g. saccing before a match, putting up Song of Conc, keeping Ghostly alive, etc.). Later, the format of HA changed and people found out heroes do a pretty decent job with the new objectives. The recent Poop 'n' thump hero build is more or less the same idea as the original - pressuring through conditions and hexes, N/Rt backline and spirits everywhere - except everything has been dumbed down so heroes can run it well.

Yeap I made my point its not my fault some people are blind to see it. But let me put it this way. Take a PvE build change a few skill in it to run it in PvP. Then that build becomes a PvP build. Thats what common sense is. Same if you take a PvP build change a few things in it for PvE that build no longer is a PvP build but becomes a PvE build. Yes I agree amateurs these days perhaps you need some more practice.As for as your troll comment I believe its no different than what you yourself put.

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Originally Posted by fenix
Bah, look at the new PvE skills. If you can't win with those, gb2presear



Nope you just cant seem to grasp a simple concept. The original build was a PvP build but as you said it yourself you changed it to a PvE build. But since some of you fail to see that I'll even requote Averra also
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Originally Posted by Avarre
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...63&postcount=2

Like the post mentions, it's pretty much the core power of the N/Rt commonly seen in halls (and sometimes, in GvG) with a morePvE-esque skillset.

Just so you dont miss it I bolded her part for you.

I think I understand what manitoba1073 means. Do you mean, I am striving to gain what little pride I have left, after being owned in this thread and I continue on but only to fail from using logic and reason?

I think you should just stop digging yourself a hole.

Prior to this post, you said the following:

You clearly state here that you believe the N/Rt setup is a PvE build that wins in PvP.

You are wrong. Nothing you say after this will make up for that fact.

Yes oh Yes dear me how wrong could I have been cause no one would have thought to use a form of the jagged bones core build with a MM when NF came out. So silly of me. OH WAIT WHATS THIS I FOUND

just so you can see the whole post http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...t=jagged+bones

i cant believe you people are arguing over who came up with a skill combo/ build first.

it was put into the game for a REASON. the Necro BOSS in NF uses that build for crying out loud.

posting a random build on some random forum does not make you its "inventor"

using a build in PVE or PVP does not make you its "inventor" EITHER.

its the bloody "Simpsons already did it" all over again, the important part is coming up with the build not copying it of some place. whether someone did it before or not is irrelevant.