You know, whats ironic about our virtual lives!?

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Lawnmower
Lawnmower
Krytan Explorer
#1
Even though virtual life is for many supposed to be an scape goat from real life, the horrifying truths and rules of real life seems to echo within the dark depths of cyberspace, where somewhere, my characters data is stored on servers that Anet can choose to close at any point, and thus ending my life.


A big fantasy for me, has always been the desire to have an online game, that will never die out. A game that will always be played and populated by other people. My flesh is erelic. I will eventually die, and maggots will feast on me... But my hopes was to that my characters would live on.


That dream has been shattered with GW. GW2 is on the way. Exactly how long is GW1 supposed to manage itself... I wanted my virtual character to be there forever. Alive.

Virtual characters are amazing. they dont have the turmoil and crappy things that sucks about real life. they dont decay. they dont physically age. they dont grow old, and are not left to die on a hospital bed with tubes in and out of their bodies while they look pathethic and helpless only being kept alive by a grey medical device that pumps air into your body, so you wont choke on the nutrition that is being entered into you from a feeding tube.

Im weak, fat and slobby and slow in real life. my virtual character is tall, beautiful and strong.

but now that character will die, and the world around it will die.

What some of you people dont seem to get, is that while the game might still have servers running, everyone will play GW2 instead! Just like with Diablo 1 and 2! When diablo 2 came out, Diablo 1 died.
And thats it...

Its over for guild wars. it was all for nothing. I wanted to live forever through my characters. I dont care if you think thats pathethic, because thats what I wanted to!
Healers Wisper
Healers Wisper
Lion's Arch Merchant
#2
wow, I really hope your not pinning your imortality to a game. if you are you might want to hit the gym, goto school, meet real friends, have a family and impact humanity in a way that is more important than a game. Otherwise those tubes and dirt you fear will only eat at you and increase the dispondancy you feel, till you can't look at yourself in the mirror anymore.

The truth is games are fleeting and ment to die as new advances in technology happen. Diablo to Diablo 2 was a natural progression as is GW to GW2. embrase change and move on.

Adapt and overcome
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Keifru
Frost Gate Guardian
#3
Actually, I don't think so mon.

I know I will not buy GW2, because I've invested so much time and mental effort into guildwars, and I think GW2 is just to similar to WoW in my mind.
Zinger314
Zinger314
Debbie Downer
#4
Seek psychological help.
Lawnmower
Lawnmower
Krytan Explorer
#5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Healers Wisper
wow, I really hope your not pinning your imortality to a game. if you are you might want to hit the gym, goto school, meet real friends, have a family and impact humanity in a way that is more important than a game. Otherwise those tubes and dirt you fear will only eat at you and increase the dispondancy you feel, till you can't look at yourself in the mirror anymore.

The truth is games are fleeting and ment to die as new advances in technology happen. Diablo to Diablo 2 was a natural progression as is GW to GW2. embrase change and move on.

Adapt and overcome
Thats what I hate about the games industry. its always technology.. technology.

Look at the movie industry - Casablanca, Citizen Kane and Godfather. These are old movies, who still have large active communities. They old and where limited by technology(somehow)... but it doesnt hold them back.


why does have to be like that with games?


Some people say that some games.. like WoW... Counter-strike.. perhaps halo 3, will be played for the next 100 years by hardcore players, and make sure the online community will be there.


why cant guild wars 1?
Why do they have to ruin a good thing? Why do ArenaNet(or perhaps its NCsoft) greed go in the way for what is the right thing to do?

I dont want to adapt. I wanna live my normal life, but have comfort in my virtual strong masucline beautiful character who wields a sword. childish fantasy? perhaps.. but harmless none the less. and besides! Doesnt most people in the world get attached to useless materialistic junk? at least the virtual character i have created is shaped by me... that has to count for something.
Arren Knez
Arren Knez
Academy Page
#6
yes gw will die, i give it a year after gw2 is out just to support the few stragglers that don't want to move on.

oh wells there goes 2000+ hrs down the bin time to move on to another game, like every other mmo out there.
Healers Wisper
Healers Wisper
Lion's Arch Merchant
#7
First off ANET has said they will maintain the servers as long as there is a community.

Second compairing guild wars to casablanca is quite a strech there buddy. Great, classic movies should be compared to classic video games (if any at all). I know alot of people who still play pac-man and space-invaders.

Third, you odon't have to adapt if you don't want too, but if you don't life sucks worse then usual.

last, yes i like my characto, love the game. define my life by it, no. if it comes down to playing with my son or helping him from a fall and I lose LS, oops life goes on. Some things are more important then a vertual beautiful charactor.

Ex:
Real family >>>>> Sims
Real Friends >>>>> online friends
real sex >>>>>> online porn
Lawnmower
Lawnmower
Krytan Explorer
#8
Why cant they just let us download the game and our characters and let us host our own servers?
margretli
margretli
Academy Page
#9
@ the OP,

Life (real or virtual) will end. It's a very simple fact.

If GW doesn't grow into GW2 it will most definitely die. Anything that doesn't grow, will die. It is unfair to keep a game (or anything) from evolving simply because of personal fears. How would you feel if your parents keep you in a cradle your entire life because they don't want you to become an adult ever!

Sounds like you have more issue than not wanting to see your character or GW die. Please for your own sake, talk to a professional. I agree with Zinger, you do need help.
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Scorchio
Ascalonian Squire
#10
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Originally Posted by Lawnmower
A big fantasy for me, has always been the desire to have an online game, that will never die out. A game that will always be played and populated by other people. My flesh is erelic. I will eventually die, and maggots will feast on me... But my hopes was to that my characters would live on.

That dream has been shattered with GW. GW2 is on the way. Exactly how long is GW1 supposed to manage itself... I wanted my virtual character to be there forever. Alive.
I think having a toon on a server whilst on your deathbed will be much less comforting than you think. Given that anyone can control that character with the right access, it's not really a good representation of you. It might be a good representation of time you've spent, but when the efforts of that time can be deleted quite easily one is left wondering the value of the pursuit.

To misquote Woody Allen

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my toon... I want to achieve it through not dying."
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Shriketalon
Lion's Arch Merchant
#11
Impermanence is, was, and shall continue to be a facet of our existence. We're mortal. Our world is mortal. Once you accept it, you can find that which is truly important in the lifetime you are granted.

You say all has been for nothing. Have you enjoyed playing this game? Have you overcome obstacles, bested challenges, partied with friends, grown as a character and as a person, trained your mind with tactics and strategies, and enjoyed every minute of this game? If so, then it has served its purpose well, as you can cherish the memories of good times throughout your life.

And remember, immortality, at least in a single, stagnant form, sucks. If your characters remained immortal upon your death, they would never be played, never adventure again, as their control, essence, impetus, whatever you wish to refer to it as, would be gone.

Live for the moments you are granted, exist in harmony with others, and have a damn good time doing it. That's all we mortals can do.
Lawnmower
Lawnmower
Krytan Explorer
#12
Quote:
Originally Posted by margretli
@ the OP,

Life (real or virtual) will end. It's a very simple fact.

If GW doesn't grow into GW2 it will most definitely die. Anything that doesn't grow, will die. It is unfair to keep a game (or anything) from evolving simply because of personal fears. How would you feel if your parents keep you in a cradle your entire life because they don't want you to become an adult ever!

Sounds like you have more issue than not wanting to see your character or GW die. Please for your own sake, talk to a professional. I agree with Zinger, you do need help.
No. The beautiful thing is that, when you got a fantasy like GW, you dont need to feel bad about being dead beat with an ordinary job, who never made something of himself or never became rich or important or whatever. because you got the game, which you can satisfy your fame and glory.
and then you go on with your ordinary life.
if anything GW is a tool to satisfy the ambitions you never managed to take in RL.

Also your example is not true. im not saying that GW cant grow. i just dont want it to die. they could keep doing expansions... they could release it to the public with adds... they could do alot of stuff to keep it alive and well.




Quote:
Originally Posted by Scorchio
I think having a toon on a server whilst on your deathbed will be much less comforting than you think. Given that anyone can control that character with the right access, it's not really a good representation of you. It might be a good representation of time you've spent, but when the efforts of that time can be deleted quite easily one is left wondering the value of the pursuit.

To misquote Woody Allen

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my toon... I want to achieve it through not dying."
I just want to know the character is there. any physical object will eventually decay. this is given. computer, cloth, pictures, urns, glass, houses, cars... all things. but once you unleash something in cyberspace it will stay there forever.
this is the beauty of the internet. when its out there, it cant die. we just need to make sure that GW does not kill all the data.


if we could get our characters and local host RA and TR and GvG matches it would be great... then they wouldnt have to pay for server upkeep!
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Tahlia Tane
Lion's Arch Merchant
#13
What the hell...
Lawnmower
Lawnmower
Krytan Explorer
#14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shriketalon
Impermanence is, was, and shall continue to be a facet of our existence. We're mortal. Our world is mortal. Once you accept it, you can find that which is truly important in the lifetime you are granted.

You say all has been for nothing. Have you enjoyed playing this game? Have you overcome obstacles, bested challenges, partied with friends, grown as a character and as a person, trained your mind with tactics and strategies, and enjoyed every minute of this game? If so, then it has served its purpose well, as you can cherish the memories of good times throughout your life.

And remember, immortality, at least in a single, stagnant form, sucks. If your characters remained immortal upon your death, they would never be played, never adventure again, as their control, essence, impetus, whatever you wish to refer to it as, would be gone.

Live for the moments you are granted, exist in harmony with others, and have a damn good time doing it. That's all we mortals can do.

my character might never would be played but it would be a blue print of me being there.


some people think that the goal of life is to have kids and pass on your genetic code. i dont see the point in this, because WW3... Disease.. hunger.. starvation.. war. eventually.. like with the dinosaures we will die and return from where we have come.. earth. unless the earth is completely destroyed.. somewhere there must be servers that will keep the internet a float..

or actually... the internet acts dependedly on itself right? There is no master server that keeps the internet running is there? it runs by itself.. and even if all life was lost.. it would still be there. my blue print.

all our off springs and future of humanity, through the generations will kill each in wars. passing on a family is pointless. only achieving something for yourself is worth anything.

you cant use money, fame and fortune when your gone. but your character is yourself in a virtual way. its your own immortality but without having the agony of having to live it... while being lonely and depressed as ages drive by, and lifes pointlessness fills you up.
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Taki
Lion's Arch Merchant
#15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawnmower
Why cant they just let us download the game and our characters and let us host our own servers?
They still have a lot riding on that technology. It's a pigeon that lays golden eggs.

Anyway, remind yourself that escapism can be very unhealthy sometimes. The time people spend getting away from their problems is time not spent resolving the very issues eating at them. It's just not a good move to let an open wound or infection go untreated.
Rikimaru
Rikimaru
Wilds Pathfinder
#16
Whoa.. you're really messed up...
I don't really think that most people play MMOs to escape their life 'cause they hate how they were born in reality. My life's totally fine, and I still play this game.

Here's some advice: Unless you're horribly deformed like the elephant man or something, I'd say around 80% of how attractive people see you as is determined by your own actions, not how you were born. There's the obvious eating healthy and exercising, but you also just have to take care of yourself, develop good style, and have confidence.

Unless they were born really messed up, whether or not you're ugly just comes down to whether or not you have a strong enough will to do what you need to.

Physical ability is even more like that, how you were born only determines how hard you have to work compared to others to be as athletic as them.

In the end just trying to live your life inside a freakin' video game is only the easy way out to get what you want without putting in a real effort... but video games are just meant for casual fun, they can't replace reality, no matter how much you want them to. No matter how good of a game someone creates, in the end you'll still just be someone staring at a computer monitor covered in pretty colors.

And even if through all of your efforts you still can't make yourself strong or attractive, it doesn't matter, as long as you like who you are, and you can still go out and have fun. And if you do like who you are, and therefore have the all-important confidence, other people will still like you too (unless you're an ass).
dont feel no pain
dont feel no pain
Forge Runner
#17
Its Just A Game



Just a random googled pic to show real life
Angelica
Angelica
Krytan Explorer
#18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Seek psychological help.
^^ Agree!

To the OP. Why so much pessimism? Be happy and enjoy the game ........ it is only a "game".
lacasner
lacasner
Desert Nomad
#19
This thread makes me appreciate the how misconstrued people's perception of reality can be and how people are making millions off of that fact.
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Chackan
Pre-Searing Cadet
#20
Why not try to improve your life? If you don't like it, just make an effort to make it more enjoyable :S

You say that you're "weak, fat and slobby and slow in real life", then why don't you make some exercise? You could grow to be exactly like your toon...except in height lol

You have to put the same effort in real life that you put in Gw. Just swap monsters and quests with people and work. Try to fight for what you want, try to change your life, and try not to refuge yourself like you do.

Everything is possible if you want too.