Jeff Strain on GW2

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haggus71
haggus71
Lion's Arch Merchant
#1
Just watched this interview:

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/s...2/videoId/1095

Jeff Strain goes into detail about his vision for GW2. Some highlights:

Expansion format similar to WoW, instead of stand alone campaigns.

Separation of PvP from PvE world, with a third "casual PvP" area where PvE can compete in World vs World.

So what do you think?
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generik
Desert Nomad
#2
The marriage of pvp to pve is what killed GW.
EternalTempest
EternalTempest
Furnace Stoker
#3
I like the idea of separated pvp, and a pve w/ an casual pvp option.
Having a "core" plus add-ons helps prevent thinning of the player population (which you have now).

So far, I like what I hear.
lyra_song
lyra_song
Hell's Protector
#4
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Originally Posted by generik
The marriage of pvp to pve is what killed GW.
I disagree, i think thats what made GW so unique and fresh in the first place.

Without this connection to PvP, GW PvE would not be capped at 20 and the combat and weapon system would not be balanced (ie:skill not stat based).

GW's pve would be DRASTICALLY different if Anet hadnt create a game that was a hybrid and i think it would have appealed to less people and would have been seen as a direct ripoff of generic MMORPGs instead of a new way of looking at things.

The ideas for GW2, in so far seem to be responses to what players in the existing game desire.
zwei2stein
zwei2stein
Grotto Attendant
#5
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Originally Posted by lyra_song
I disagree, i think thats what made GW so unique and fresh in the first place.

Without this connection to PvP, GW PvE would not be capped at 20 and the combat and weapon system would not be balanced (ie:skill not stat based).

GW's pve would be DRASTICALLY different if Anet hadnt create a game that was a hybrid and i think it would have appealed to less people and would have been seen as a direct ripoff of generic MMORPGs instead of a new way of looking at things.
Agreed on here.

Without PvE enforced restrictions and rules, GW PvE would not be as good and unique (thou, anet is working hard on destroying this with all those PvE skills, titles and consumables).

It would be just another everquest derivate mmo.

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I do not exactly like nerfs from PvP, but thank god for it being here from start.
N
Ninna
Desert Nomad
#6
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Originally Posted by zwei2stein
It would be just another everquest derivate mmo (with no monthly fees)
added the important difference
Zinger314
Zinger314
Debbie Downer
#7
Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein
It would be just another everquest derivate mmo (with no monthly fees), but no in-game support and the likeability that the game itself will be under-par of MMO standards by a 2009 release, further exemplifying the idiom "You get what you pay for," due to the inevitable comparisons with WoW.
Added a few more important differences, in a run-on sentence.
Exoudeous
Exoudeous
Wilds Pathfinder
#8
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Originally Posted by Zinger314
I should go back to my cave, actually play wow, and stop posting on forums about games I hate cause I have nothing better to do
fixed it even further
lyra_song
lyra_song
Hell's Protector
#9
Grow up boys. -.-;

Topic -> Jeff Strain GW2
EternalTempest
EternalTempest
Furnace Stoker
#10
They have stated (previously) the skills available vs a "limited" set you can have equipped when you go out will still be in effect.

Map warp is in there, there will be NO "monster" camping.
Still a mixture instance and persistence.

I especially agree with zwei2stein on "The ideas for GW2, in so far seem to be responses to what players in the existing game desire."
R!ghteous Ind!gnation
R!ghteous Ind!gnation
Krytan Explorer
#11
We will be constantly looking for more information simply because... there isnt much out there. People who are complaining already should really just grow up imo.
Ravi
Ravi
Frost Gate Guardian
#12
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Originally Posted by Exoudeous
fixed it even further
poor zinger, let him be man, cant you see the servers are down? rofl
natuxatu
natuxatu
Wilds Pathfinder
#13
Actually it sounds pretty solid to me. Can't wait. What he said made perfect sense about trying to juggle pvp and pve and stuff... and having the friendlier version of pvp for pve is just... smart in my opinion.
Zinger314
Zinger314
Debbie Downer
#14
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Originally Posted by Ravi
poor zinger, let him be man, cant you see the servers are down? rofl
I've actually quit World of Warcraft, believe it or not, due to the one-two-three punch of Metroid Prime 3, Mass Effect, and Halo 3 in September.

Feel free to laugh at me in PMs, as doing it in this thread is trolling.

But the point still remains that GW2 will be released too late to make a difference...
T
Tijger
Wilds Pathfinder
#15
Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
Grow up boys. -.-;

Topic -> Jeff Strain GW2
The WoW fanbois seem to have problems staying away from GW
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Tijger
Wilds Pathfinder
#16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
I've actually quit World of Warcraft, believe it or not, due to the one-two-three punch of Metroid Prime 3, Mass Effect, and Halo 3 in September.

Feel free to laugh at me in PMs, as doing it in this thread is trolling.

But the point still remains that GW2 will be released too late to make a difference...
A difference to what? We're talking about a new game with a new engine, new storyline, an significantly altered concept scheduled for release in 2 years...what kind of nonsense are you talking here?

Everyone should just stop making new MMO's because we have the uber grind cartoon thats WoW which by that time will probably have a level cap of 120?

Mass Effect will be nigh forgotten in 2 years as will the other games you are so interested in now, I would wager not to mention that by that time there will be a Mass Effect 2, Halo 4 and a slew of other games, most of which manage to find a market for themselves. Some will be huge, some will bomb and other will do ok *shrug*

I'll reserve judgement on GW2 until there's actually something to see.

PS: Why do you need to stop playing WoW because another game comes out? I can play both GW and Mass Effect.
lyra_song
lyra_song
Hell's Protector
#17
*playing Bioshock, GW and Cooking Mama and maybe Medal of Honor 4...soon*

I dont see how GW2 is going to be released "too late" Zinger.

Its in development. It would be rather naive and presumptious to say that as it continues to develop, it wont evolve or change the ideas and concepts to keep up with games being released even NOW and in the future.

Development is not a "closed" environment.

Look at GW, they constantly take input from their community.

Game conventions like TGS, E3 and such are not just to show off to the media and public, they are also to show off to each other. They dont just look at it and say "oh thats nice". They go back to the boardroom and sometimes they go "Ok, how are we gonna top that?".
V
Vamis Threen
Frost Gate Guardian
#18
Anyway, back to Jeff Strain........

--> sounded good to me.

Looks like the end of cross-community nerfs. And he does state explicitly he accepts that there are two communities.
Exoudeous
Exoudeous
Wilds Pathfinder
#19
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Originally Posted by Zinger314
I've actually quit World of Warcraft, believe it or not, due to the one-two-three punch of Metroid Prime 3, Mass Effect, and Halo 3 in September.

Feel free to laugh at me in PMs, as doing it in this thread is trolling.

But the point still remains that GW2 will be released too late to make a difference...
too late for what exactly? to late for you to care to troll the forums anymore?
Melon
Melon
Academy Page
#20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tijger
PS: Why do you need to stop playing WoW because another game comes out? I can play both GW and Mass Effect.
Because he has to pay for WoW.