I think continuing to argue about this is pretty futile. Pretty much everything has be pointed out already and yet both camps seem to have a decent fraction of popular support and both camps are very adamant in their opinion.
There's a few points I'd like to reiterate to highlight those points and summarize my belief that things are fine as is:
1. This was only a preview.
1.a. Maybe the remaining few norn towns will have quests with rewards significantly larger than others.
1.b. Maybe the hero notebooks will ease your woes.
2. There is sure to be greater challenge and greater rewards offered in Hard Mode. I'm not insanely gifted at GW, but I still find GWEN to be so easy that it practically compells me to play HM just so I can feel that I truly beat the game. Personally I enjoy a challenge and if HM forces me to play a different type of build or just play more actively/skillfully then that keeps me happy.
3. Dungeons are very enjoyable and replayable in my opinion. It seems like a waste to check them out once and then discard them considering that playing them will get me closer to a title I may care about. Heaven forbid I might even decide to replay something to enjoy the company of a guildie, friend, or even meet some new friends.
4. We're talking about elite vanity armor for an expansion. I would completely agree with the opposition if not for the fact that they've already had the opportunity to get 3 campaigns worth of max non-elite and elite armor. That's like 27 sets of armor. If you only have 1 campaign then there's still enough armor to fill your bags up. Personally I really love GW armor skins and I appreciate my existing armor so much I have to wonder if I'm going to even want any GWEN armor regardless of how much or little grinding/gold is required.
5. Sometimes you just can't please everybody all the time. People who want armors with less effort don't see that other people will be upset that they completed the game and unlocked every armor with what they consider to be too little effort. I empathize with the people who feel like the grinding requirement is going to be excessive, but judging from this thread it doesn't seem like the opposition severely outnumbers the people who prefer to keep the system as it is.
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Originally Posted by Ravi
it's weird, 1st everything was easily found and simply bought, then people say armors were no longer an achievement and that the game has nothing left for them, then anet listens to them and changes things a bit, and viola! yet another whine thread about how anet "screwed" up again, haha seriously sometimes guru amazes me.
i wonder what would happen if i went to any other mmorpg and ask for gear quicker, u know, cuz since "this is a service i pay for, i should get it at the pace i want to get it not at the pace the game allow you to" , wow haha great rofl.
yeah, what he said.
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In response to a post directed at me:
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Originally Posted by clarianaeneas
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Originally Posted by Friar Khan
That's a decent point. Yes, you do have to kill monsters repeatedly, but...
Why aren't you complaining about Vabbian armor? Vabbian armor costs 16 rubies and 16 saphires in gems. Playing all the quests gets you about 4 gems. That means you need to put a lot of work in to farm your way to 28 gems unless you already farmed enough gold before nightfall was released. The only real difference is that you can't buy Norn rank off ebay as conveniently as you could for gold.
Simple: In the case of other prestige armor, you can buy it if you have the money. Meaning you can choose to do things such as play through other parts of the game, sell drops, and do other quests then come back for the armor. I should know, I bought vabbian for my ele, and FoW as well as 4 other 15k sets for my ranger by simply playing through the game(s) with multiple characters. That way it's fun and there's always something different to see. In this case we're forced to farm the same area again and again, see the difference?
Your experience is completely opposite from mine. I never had enough money to buy anything other than the least expensive armor for my characters unless I farmed something like an icy dragon sword or a new green for more cash. I'm not calling you a liar, but it's very hard to believe that you had enough money for FoW armor just from playing through the game once per character. Granted I'm not the sort of player that cares to complete every mission and quest with each of his 6 characters. But I think if you aquired FoW armor from no grinding then I should say congrats for getting a few high-end golds without farming for them.
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Like I said in the beginning, it seems pretty futile to argue about this more, especially until we know more about the full release. I don't want to take the time to read through this thread any more so I ask that if anybody quotes me to debate anything I've said, please send a PM to let me know and tell me the post number so I can reply without having to sift through pages of the same stuff being said again and again (lol reading this thread is like a grind that doesn't even yield armor  ). |
i HHAAAVVEEEE to get it faster, fasterrrrrr i say, u know....cuz...i payed for this service? rofl
