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Lion's Arch Merchant

chinese food

N/Mo

Joined Jun 2006

Jul 21, 2007 at 9:18 AM • #1

Ok im slightly confused(as ia am mostly)

Anet makes a contest to name Gwen bosses right
But there are no new elite skills
and very few core skills
so how few bosses and repeat bosses is Gwen going to have Or bosses without elite skills?

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DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Joined Jul 2006

Jul 21, 2007 at 9:20 AM • #2

Why do core skills matter? Every campaign's skills will be used on bosses, as every campaign is connected to this.

dsnesnintendo

Lion's Arch Merchant

chinese food

N/Mo

Joined Jun 2006

Jul 21, 2007 at 9:25 AM • #3

hmm didnt think of that guess there will be at least 290 bosses(jk)
wonder what skills will be there

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Angel Sharks [As]

Joined Feb 2006

Jul 21, 2007 at 9:48 AM • #4

The problem comes with Signet of Capture, though. If you only own Prophecies, for instance, and try to cap from a boss with an Elite from Factions or Nightfall, what happens?

Jecht Scye

Wilds Pathfinder

Lucky Crickets[Luck]

N/Me

Joined Dec 2005

Jul 21, 2007 at 9:55 AM • #5

If you own GWEN and cap an elite skill that originated in a previous game but is now in GWEN too then it's yours.

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

Joined Dec 2005

Jul 21, 2007 at 9:56 AM • #6

IIRC, you capture the skill, but it is 'locked' and you cannot use it.

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DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Joined Jul 2006

Jul 21, 2007 at 10:04 AM • #7

This has happend before, you can capture Double Dragon in Nightfall, and if you do not own Factions then Double Dragon becomes locked, and when you buy Factions you can use it.

It's not a problem.

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Angel Sharks [As]

Joined Feb 2006

Jul 21, 2007 at 10:32 AM • #8

Quote: Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex IIRC, you capture the skill, but it is 'locked' and you cannot use it. Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkNecrid

This has happend before, you can capture Double Dragon in Nightfall, and if you do not own Factions then Double Dragon becomes locked, and when you buy Factions you can use it.

It's not a problem. Cool deal. Well then I guess it won't be a problem! Bring on the mass migration of Elites!

Earth

Always Outnumbered

Joined Jul 2006

Jul 21, 2007 at 10:33 AM • #9

AFAIK there will be 10 new elite skills for every class.

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Angel Sharks [As]

Joined Feb 2006

Jul 21, 2007 at 10:38 AM • #10

Quote: Originally Posted by X Earth X

AFAIK there will be 10 new elite skills for every class. No. There are 100 new skills, not counting PvE-only skills, and they are all normal non-elites. There is 10 per class, though.

Linkie: List of Eye of the North skills

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Joined Oct 2005

Jul 21, 2007 at 10:49 AM • #11

Quote: Originally Posted by X Earth X

AFAIK there will be 10 new elite skills for every class. No new elites.

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

None

W/

Joined Feb 2007

Jul 21, 2007 at 12:43 PM • #12

Quote: Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

IIRC, you capture the skill, but it is 'locked' and you cannot use it. It'll be lawl. you can probably cap like 10 Faction only elites even if you don't have Factions

mazey vorstagg

Wilds Pathfinder

Meeting of Lost Minds

E/Mo

Joined Aug 2006

Jul 21, 2007 at 12:51 PM • #13

There might be elites but not revealed yet, as a surprise

Stoneys Rock

Frost Gate Guardian

Great Success [GS]

Mo/

Joined Jul 2006

Jul 21, 2007 at 1:01 PM • #14

Quote: Originally Posted by dsnesnintendo

Ok im slightly confused(as ia am mostly)

Anet makes a contest to name Gwen bosses right
But there are no new elite skills
and very few core skills
so how few bosses and repeat bosses is Gwen going to have Or bosses without elite skills? well the big end of dungeon or whatever bosses are going to end up with monster skills most likely. Maybe like the ones you could bring up on the load skill list screen before it was deleted.
but otherwise it won't really matter imo you need 1 campaign to play this game anyway so I'd say it'd be okay to have a mix of all the skills for the bosses.

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dargon

Furnace Stoker

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

Joined May 2005

Jul 21, 2007 at 3:27 PM • #15

or, they'll just have core skills

Enix

Krytan Explorer

GRE

Joined Mar 2005

Jul 21, 2007 at 6:47 PM • #16

I think they meant bosses at the end of the dungeons. Mallyx is a boss, and you cant cap jack from him.

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Radicals Against Tyrants

W/

Joined Sep 2005

Jul 22, 2007 at 4:58 AM • #17

My guess is they'll turn some skills to elites depending on the feedback they get.

stiffler

Krytan Explorer

[ToR]

R/

Joined Jan 2006

Jul 22, 2007 at 5:38 AM • #18

Hang on a sec, we were shown 100 non-elites from a total of 150 new skills. So whats with the missing 50? If you divide that up that would mean 5 new elites for each class if the missing 50 are elite skills, and if they are not then what are they, PvP exclusives?

mazey vorstagg

Wilds Pathfinder

Meeting of Lost Minds

E/Mo

Joined Aug 2006

Jul 22, 2007 at 6:17 AM • #19

The 50 left are pve surely?

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Angel Sharks [As]

Joined Feb 2006

Jul 22, 2007 at 7:28 AM • #20

Quote: Originally Posted by stiffler

Hang on a sec, we were shown 100 non-elites from a total of 150 new skills. So whats with the missing 50? If you divide that up that would mean 5 new elites for each class if the missing 50 are elite skills, and if they are not then what are they, PvP exclusives? Yeah, there are 50 PvE-only skills. Some of those may be elites, but they will still be PvE-only.