On campaign superiority

Hello, I remember a long time ago when we were told no one campaign would have any advantage over another, thats great, etc.

Now, however I cannot afford Nightfall right now as I am just starting a new job, and am trying to scrounge enough money to sublet an apartment in a new city.

Why is this a problem? Take a look at random arenas, Its a rare thing to see a build composing of purely prophecies skills. Why is that? New skills= Advantage over old skills.

In fact a few certain dervish builds I won't release here because Im sure we are all woefully aware of dominate. I plan to purchase Nightfall when finances permit, but I should not have to feel pressured into buying it- World of Warcraft pressured me, and I no longer play it. That and the ridiculous cost involved.

Im sure I'll be flamed heavily, "Get a job nerd" etc, but I just don't appreciate being mislead is all. I really love Anet, and I love guild wars as a game, I just think its possible to have new and better content without punishing some of us.

You can still play the game with Prophecies/Factions skills, but of course it's possible to create a more effective build when you have all three chapters' skills to choose from. Introducing new skills doesn't have anything to do with "punishing some of us", if they hadn't introduced any new skills in NF nobody would have bought the game.

You haven't, you still have all the content you paid for do you not?

that isnt what Im discussing, we were told no campaign would have superiority, yet it happened anyway.

*In a mid-western accent* Well there's your problem.

U expect Anet to provide a NEW game free of charge? The chapters were always explained as stand-alone.

Sorry but your just crying over spilt milk.

Imagine if you only have the nightfall campaign, you would miss out on quite some nifty skills too.

Succes with your appartment and new job.

There does seem to be a progression, but that might just be from the wider choice with every additional chapter.

A question then, is a (core-profession) character from a Nightfall only account superior to such a character from a Prophecies only account?

that isn't what I am discussing, and your little adage made no sense at all.

I was not asking for anything FREE. I am asking why we were told one thing, yet another occurred.

Well, sorry bud. You're missing out on all of the advantages NF provides.

I kind of understand what Rotgut was saying. Some skills in NF are a lot better than those in CH1 or CH2, and it's a bit unfair to those who don't have NF. In term of build and such, then again some skills from Factions are far more powerful than those in CH1 and 3. I'm talking about core classes ofcause.

All I can say is save up! I don't know where you live but in the UK, NF is now £20 in GAMES also in Game Station as well.

Then for starter your in the wrong place. Try Anet support. The guys who created the game and have all the answers

Bitching and crying on here isn't going to get answers, Gaile has abandoned Guru (sorry if its wrong Gaile, but it seems like that).

And if you get and answers, its not going to change anything!
You still won't have Nightfall, you still won't have the skills, you will still be inferior.

Sorry its sucks, but your just ranting on here and looking like a cry baby in the process.
But best of luck.

IMO this is what the OP was stating .....I personally have no clue because I have all 3 chapters...but it would be interesting to find out....for all those that think the OP was whinning....don't jump to conclusions...he posted and said this was not the problem...he was just asking...albiet in a whiny way...is one core profession from a specific chapter better than from another chapter...

I for one would like to know...but don't have the knowledge of the skills to say yes or no

Actually. I paid from game because I liked past Guild Wars games too and how they tell story etc rather than WoW "nearly storylineless" style. Of course even games like WoW got storyline but GW just do it better when it comes for telling it, in my opinion.

I do think the Dervish profession, specifically, is overpowered. They are too powerfull attack wise and way way too powerful in healing for a melee profession. I often see secondary monk traded for secondary Dervish... I've seen dervishes taking on 3+ oponents in Aspenwood and they did not have an earth tank build, it was a plain dervish one, and I don't think that's plain "skill", to me it's plain "dervish skills". How can a profession with skills from only one campaign make other professions fall back when they have skills from all three campaigns, to me that shows that skills from that campaign are overdoing it. Maybe it's they wanted to compensate for that same fact (skills from only one campaign), but I think they over did it.

Lets face it...
You can manage the PvE campaigns you have just fine with the skill sets provided..... but unless you have all three campaigns, PvP is going to be much tougher. I'd strongly recommend just ditching PvP until you get Nightfall, or at least the PvP version of it...

It can't be helped really.
If A-Net were to make special versions of all the PvP arenas for every possible combination of campaigns (e.g. non-Nightfall arenas for those with only Prophecies and Factions) ... things would just become ridiculous...

You severely underestimate the number of useful skills that are only available in Prophecies and Factions.

Edit: BB > HTML.

And answer would be class dependant. and alot of "imho"

Ele: Nf > Proph > Fac
Monk: Nf > Fac > Proph
Warrior: Fac > Nf > Proph
Ranger: quite equal actually
Mesmer: Proph > Fac > Nf
Necro: Factions > Prophecies > Nf

Assassin: Nf > Fact
Ritualiust: Fact > Nf

By me, each class has its best, must have chapter.

Some classes feel buffed over time, while other feel left alone (this is special case of mesmers, where new skills are almost all inferior to previous skills)

*Laughs*

Can't play Assassin without Factions. At all!
And furthermore, even if you could, I'd sooner have a Factions-only Assassin than Nightfall-only Assassin. In fact, I don't have any Nightfall Assassin skills on my skillbar at all... Not with my standard Assassin's Promise build, nor my boss-beating Moebius Strike build... =P


That IS rather off the point though.

... As is this: By the way, I like the "Sexy Losers" clip avatar!

Isn't it obvious that the more skills you have the more options you have to make a better build, what else would be the point in adding skills.

You get what you pay for.