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Originally Posted by myst1k
true ectos should have a price of 10k+ i dont want everyone to have Fow armors, crystalline swords, crazy minipets and everything rare, it wont be fun anymore, would be seem everyone is elite, so there is no more elite in this game... ill go play oblivion for now, then some other games.
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Originally Posted by Curse You
Backstabbing? They implemented the cap on money because they don't want people hoarding money like that. It's your fault for thinking that the value of Ectoplasm would never change.
Or, you could not spend all your time trying to increase your virtual wealth. Since you have so much, it hardly seems like you're planning on spending it, so why in the world do you need so much money? |
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Originally Posted by Curse You
And I think you're one of those people who think that you "need" that money you farmed. Really, you shouldn't ever need to spend over 100k, that was a creation of the community's want for more money and people willing to spend it.
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Originally Posted by Nuclear Eclipse
You guys are saying it's pointless to have money, well it's a game... there is no point to any of it, other than for fun. Some people think making money is fun, just like some people think working on their rank is fun, or doing GvG is fun.
Do you hear people saying "OMG LOL NUBE GVG IS POINTLESS U DONT EVEN GET A CHEST AT THE END AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!"? No, so don't tell him or others how to play their game. They have fun making money, you have fun your own way. |
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Originally Posted by MistressYichi
Having an expensive armor, rare sword, some stupid little pet, or anything else in this game does not make you elite. Your 1.2 million armor will do the same as 1.5k armor. your 100k+700 ecto crystaline will do the same a collectors sword. There are currently a VAST ammount of people running around in what used to be considered "rare" armor with "rare" weapons and whatnot and some of them did buy their gold/items/whatnot through ebay and ebay money meaning they didnt have to do anything but whip out a credit card to become "elite" as you put it. so no it doesnt make you elite, it doesnt show off anything more than you farmed your ass off, got lucky on a trade because some fool was dumb enough to buy it, or you bought your gold online... Skill and being elite in this game does not come from your items. it comes from your accomplishments and even those are starting to become way too common.
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Originally Posted by IlikeGW
What the hell do all the posts like these have to do with the topic? It's about the price of ecto, not about if you want to bash people who actually have ecto.
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Originally Posted by myst1k
true ectos should have a price of 10k+ i dont want everyone to have Fow armors, crystalline swords, crazy minipets and everything rare, it wont be fun anymore, would be seem everyone is elite, so there is no more elite in this game... ill go play oblivion for now, then some other games.
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Originally Posted by MistressYichi
Having an expensive armor, rare sword, some stupid little pet, or anything else in this game does not make you elite. Your 1.2 million armor will do the same as 1.5k armor. your 100k+700 ecto crystaline will do the same a collectors sword. There are currently a VAST ammount of people running around in what used to be considered "rare" armor with "rare" weapons and whatnot and some of them did buy their gold/items/whatnot through ebay and ebay money meaning they didnt have to do anything but whip out a credit card to become "elite" as you put it. so no it doesnt make you elite, it doesnt show off anything more than you farmed your ass off, got lucky on a trade because some fool was dumb enough to buy it, or you bought your gold online... Skill and being elite in this game does not come from your items. it comes from your accomplishments and even those are starting to become way too common.
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Originally Posted by Nuclear Eclipse
You guys are saying it's pointless to have money, well it's a game... there is no point to any of it, other than for fun. Some people think making money is fun, just like some people think working on their rank is fun, or doing GvG is fun. Do you hear people saying "OMG LOL NUBE GVG IS POINTLESS U DONT EVEN GET A CHEST AT THE END AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!"? No, so don't tell him or others how to play their game. They have fun making money, you have fun your own way. [/quote Quote:
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Originally Posted by Ubernoob
So you can't save up more than a million gold... Boo-freakin-hoo. Personally I can't see how you would need or even want anymore than that. The only thing I can think of is just so you can go "Zomg everyone look how rich I am!!1!11!!1" which is pointless 'cause unless you're going to share we don't really care. How about, Oh I dunno, doing something OTHER than farming and then complaining about how you're loosing money on ecto. You people get no sympathy from me.
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Originally Posted by Does-it-Matter
Just to tie in what Aerian_Skybane said more directly to what you two are going on about. You can't blame ANet for this. The players created the economy. It was the players who said what skins were popular (rarities aside), what mods were good*, etc. The players created Ectos as the Gold Substitute. It made sense why it was chosen, of course, being a rare requirement that had short drop rates in limited areas. (Lack of supply, with a decent demand, would push up the cost and thus allow it to efficiently substitute for large amounts of gold.) But none the less, the players chose it. The players inflated the price (a select percentage, at that). So now that the minority can no longer supplant their wealth with liquid gold, they need to thaw out those Ectos. They sell them off in a self-induced panic, which increases supply and lowers the end price. All ANet did was to implement a device to reduce bot farmers and "easy" farm runs (farming gold, rather than the items themselves). They didn't make getting items any easier (many will argue its hard now that "farming" has been 'reduced.'). At the moment I can only think of three ways they could do that. 1) Flood the market with required materials 2) Flood the market with gold 3) Reduce the cost of the armor itself (as in, requires less ecto, gold, materials, etc.) None of that was done. Loot scaling did the exact opposite actually. ANet never intended (in my opinion) for items to scale over 100k (all merchants cap at that, for instance, trade and character capacity caps at that too). --- Now onto the next point. Your logic (Nuclear Eclipse) is flawed on the point of intentions within the game. You have to evaluate the Reward or the Goal of an objective, to understand why people do it. For instance, you can't say "Why do you do GvG, there is no chest?" because the reward is not to obtain PvE-relevant weapons. Its to fulfill the goal of demonstrating skill and the reward of obtaining a good ranking. -PvP (in general) has a reward of titles, your name in an announcement, personal satisfaction (though it's fleeting), rankings, and control of the Hall of Heroes. The Goal is to demonstrate skill (i.e. Win) -PvE (on the surface) has the reward of End Game items, completion of the storylines, and advancement into end-stage missions (DoA, for instance.) The Goal again is to demonstrate skill (...winning.) -Farming rewards you with gold, or marketable items, being known as the person who created the suitable build, etc. The Goal is operate the most efficient build to maximize profits in a timely manner. Now some people farm to simply farm (evidence would be people on this forum who said the exact thing.) It isn't done for the cash, it's done to create the build, and kill things. Many do it simply to get gold to buy things (things they WANT, as everything "necessary" in the game is free.) and then finally we have... -Making Money. Reward large buying power. Goal... largest bank account? Seriously, I don't understand your position, and I'd be interested to learn. I understand wanting to attain a degree of wealth to purchase more "privileged" items (though personally I've never spent more than 20k on anything and have never obtained more than 80k in Gold.) But to have large amounts of resources to just have them? I'm sure there has to be a Banking and Investment game on the market, or at the very least a game where that is actually a focal point. In PvP there are always "new competitors" in PvE there is "harder/new" content (and when there isn't... people complain) ... but where do you go once you obtain "the most resources in Guild Wars." ? Do you compete with the number two person? It just seems lacking. As I said though, I'd be interested to learn why you two especially herald this as such a fun time. --- *While some would argue that a Mod is determined by its use in game, all one has to do is look at the popularity of Sundering/Fortitude and then the plethora of threads that debate Sundering vs. Vampiric and Fortitude vs. Armor. (Anecdotal, yes, but just to show a point.) |
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Originally Posted by Maiyn
Before factions I bought 105 ecto at 4.5k each.. I have seen it low before, it shouldn't ever really have been used as currency.
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Originally Posted by Nuclear Eclipse
First off don't put words in my mouth. Did I say I like to farm for gold for the sake of gold? No, I didn't... so enough with the insults...
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Originally Posted by Nuclear Eclipse
Some people think making money is fun, just like some people think working on their rank is fun, or doing GvG is fun.
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| I don't really care about gold, but I do have a lot (around 1500k in total). I don't farm for gold, I farm for the challenge of it, and the items and gold I get is just a bonus. Why haven't I spent my money? Because I don't need incredibly expensive gold weapons that are no better than collectors... I just keep my gold around to track what I've gained from the farming I've done. |
| And actually, your logic is flawed. You seem to think that a game must have a strict set of goals to be the least bit humanly enjoyable. |
| Some people just like to accrue wealth. Just because you don't doesn't mean other people can't enjoy it. |
You yourself state people gaining gold just to gain gold. | Everyone needs to just mind their own business and play the game how they want, and stop trying to force other people to change their views through insults and put-downs. |
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Originally Posted by juicetoocool17
Hrmm some things are worth more then a mil gold..
like my mini rollerbeetle perhaps. so its the only way you can trade. So shhh |
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Originally Posted by Hodor
I'm curious as to why the ecto price is dropping, while at the same time ecto appears to be becoming rarer? I don't often farm, almost never UW, but I thought I'd try the W/Rt solo build for a bit. Out of 15 runs over 4 days I've gotten 2 ecto, both in the first 2 runs. Is anybody else getting next to nothing?
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