I'm bored.

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Zinger314
Zinger314
Debbie Downer
#1
After spending all of yesterday solo-farming for Birthday Cakes and items, I realized...why do I continually roll a rock up a mountain just so it can fall down? (Hi, Sysphisus!)

I had originally left Guild Wars for World of Warcraft several months ago, as I was bored then. Since that didn't go over so well (I was unable to start on an established server...and they haven't release any new servers), I looked back into Guild Wars.

After the announcement that Hard Mode would be released, I became giddy. I spent a month refamiliarizing myself with my character and gearing up my Heroes.

But when Hard Mode was released...it wasn't that eventful. I wanted to get Guardian everywhere. Yet, on most missions, it's impossible unless you have humans as half your party. Unfortunately, when everyone is spread across 56 missions, it's hard to get 8 people, let alone 6. From what I can tell, everyone is stuck on the Ascalon Missions and won't try anything else...

Hard Mode is a gimmick. ArenaNet pronmised intelligent and efficient AI; they just boosted the attributes by a ton and multiplied the attack and casting speed. The only skill modification they made was to the sub-20 Enemies by giving them Elites. I expected more.

ArenaNet said that they would be releasing Sunspear skills which were PvE only and class unique. Many thought that they would be with the HM update. Unless that skill makes me God for XX seconds, it won't matter. Many people are still pressed for their 8 slots as it is. I'm a little dissappointed that we haven;t heard anything about these skills. If it turns out that HM was tested with these skills...I will be annoyed.

So, without PvE on my Necromancer, what else is there to do?

*Assist others through Normal Mode Missions: I helped an Assassin through Arborstone last night. I had to fight with him to use Eve has a Henchman, as opposed to his lv. 13 Sousuke and a third Monk. And during the mission, he was drawing on the map, telling me where to go! Sadly, that was one of the lesser jerks I've met. I still have people Whispering me to help with every single mission. It's annoying. While many people have been graceful and courteous (i.e. the people who responded to my thread at Guru), many others have been rude, and therefore it isn't worthwhile.

*Start another character: I tried starting an Elementalist and continuing my Ritualist and Ranger. Yet...they all killed significantly slower in groups than almost any build my Necromancer can play. In World of Warcraft, there's a huge difference when playing different classes, as you are primarily solo. In Guild Wars, you are always a part of a group, so your individual effectiveness will be minimized. Plus, I do not want to regrind Sunspear and Lightbringer...

*Farm for FoW Armor: Female Necromancer Vabbian > FoW Armor. Case closed.

*PvP: Believe it or not, I'm actually Rank 4. And I hated it. What's the point? The only point to Heroes Ascent is to get more fame. (Again, hello Sysphisus)

GvG is somewhat the same way. You can get to the top 100 on the ladder...but it doesn't matter unless you are top 32. And obviously, I couldn't accomplish either.

And I'm 17. I can't really HA/GvG all night consistantly; Schoolwork comes first.

What can I do to extend my Guild Wars life? I guess Pokemon Diamond was just released...
Knightsaber Sith
Knightsaber Sith
Furnace Stoker
#2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
*Farm for FoW Armor: Female Necromancer Vabbian > FoW Armor. Case closed.
More like
15k Necrotic > everything else
zwei2stein
zwei2stein
Grotto Attendant
#3
Seems like you gave up on othe class development already. You really shuldnt measure "fun" by kiling speed, especially if you are expert necro and novice on other one.

Dont let yourself get intimidated by regrinding stupid stuff (lb is not required, sunspear only for home character), play REALLY different character, meele - not ranged, true support, not damage dealers. If you have predjustige against warriors, take it away and try one. And play for fun. sigh.

you for sure have mule slots that you can sacrifice for couple of characters of each class. you will find one you like besides necroes.

~~~

or just stop playing gw and following forums (without bibi threads), duh, simplest thing you can do.
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Kalki
Lion's Arch Merchant
#4
This game is huge and sometimes hard to find people to group with. For the most part if you can't find people to do the things you need, then join a more focused guild. If you want to find people that are doing vanquisher titles join a guild dedicated to that.

P.S. - WoW sucks.
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FoxBat
Furnace Stoker
#5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Yet, on most missions, it's impossible unless you have humans as half your party.
That's not really true. You do have to change your hero tactics dramatically though, your "ultimate hero builds" or similar high-aggression builds don't work so well in hard mode. I find myself taking hero healers since the henchies are so horrible at it (esp factions ones), while hench warriors still do fair auto-attack damage and armor tanking even if their skillset sucks. A bonder hero makes life a ton easier through the many areas light on enchant removal. Some kind of caster shutdown is typically required as well, easiest if your own character does that.

More frustration than it's worth is another thing though... you basically have to build completely against many areas to stand a chance, and you only learn this through trial and error against the many new skills and quirks that aren't on wiki yet. In some areas you have to carefully flag henchies while you make pulls instead of charging in with guns blazing. (Especially annoying to flag a bonder behind everyone else) It can start to feel a bit like DoA, which probably isn't a good thing.
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Kas
Frost Gate Guardian
#6
My advice? Wait for Granado Espada. Once that game hits the Open Beta (in the coming may) GW is history for me. Basically every game comes to an end sooner or later but interestingly enough GW is the only game where quitting it is highly encouraged.
The problem with Guildwars in PVE is that it is allways the same. Even with the so called hardmode the missions are just as easy as ever only that the mobs hit slightly harder. But the same things that allways worked still work. Elite Missions are still the same old "Tank'n Nuke" Nonsense. And doing Guardian on one of my characters I realized one thing: There was a fricking reason I could not get myself to create another character.
It's the one dimensional structure of Guildwars. You really have just one way to go, you really only can do the very same things again and again and again. In most missions you even have a set path you must walk with no options at all. I'm not asking for 3D movement here but something more than a fixed Go-Kart Area with a fixed way of solving potential obstacles (seriously, requiring corpse exploitation in Urgoz to even fricking proceed? We found out the hard way when the whole trip came to a sudden stop. :X)
A
Achilles Antony
Frost Gate Guardian
#7
I'm rather bored with GW these days as well... you're definitely not alone. All I've been doing for the past week or so is playing through Nightfall with my Dervish and capping elites. I honestly don't feel like doing much more than that, and I only have 2 elites left to cap on him. What next?

I also think Anet missed the boat on hardmode. I, too, was excited about, but have only played it a few times since it came out because I think it's crap. More intelligent AI with better skillbars is one thing, and what I was expecting, but the boosted attack and casting speed is retarded, and I think unfair as well. If they can have a constant boost to attack and magic speed, we should too.

I'm also not a huge fan of PvP, so that's out for me as well.

Like you, Zinger, I've also been running around assisting people who are new to the game, and while I don't mind doing that, some of the people milk it for all it's worth, ask me for money so they can buy armor like I have, and then become rather ungrateful for the help they received when I say no. I just have to tell them, I worked very hard for my armor's and have played this game a very long time... to which they get angry and seem to forget I just helped them get through most of a campaign just because I'm being nice. Argh!

Anyway, this kinda turned into a rant, and I apologize for that as I don't usually rant, but this is how I've been feeling the last few weeks. I just wanted to say I'm with you on this one Zinger.
Knightsaber Sith
Knightsaber Sith
Furnace Stoker
#8
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kas
My advice? Wait for Granado Espada. Once that game hits the Open Beta (in the coming may) GW is history for me.
I'm going for Hellgate: London myself
But I'll pop back to GW for a bit at holiday events or new expansions and such.


*and it's called Sword of the New World on this side
Bryant Again
Bryant Again
Hall Hero
#9
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kas
My advice? Wait for Granado Espada. Once that game hits the Open Beta (in the coming may) GW is history for me.
Well we'll have to see about that, aye? Let's hope it's as fun as it is pretty.

To Zinger and for help in solving your Guild Wars boredom,

...um...

Dunno. I'm playing a mix of Neverwinter Nights 2 and WoW at the moment. NWN2 is okay, so far. I'll tell more about that later.

As for Guild Wars, dunno. I'm just messing with FA Kurzick at the moment.

I agree that Hard Mode is not what I hyped it up to be, not to mention it's not what ANet said it'd be. It's also just pretty boring. Once I get the right build for the area, no strategy involved at all.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalki
P.S. - WoW sucks.
How deliciously appropriate. Now try telling that to the 7 million people who play it.
jammerpa
jammerpa
Lion's Arch Merchant
#10
Hard most lost it's appeal very quickly imo. The HM mish's seem to be void of good players that cant put together a skill bar effective enough to beat a lot of these mish's. When people get tired of mish's failing, it seems as if they give up entirely.

Hard mode and vanquishing area's is really the only thing that is keeping my interest in GW at the moment. I've farmed all that I care to, I've done DoA to the point that I cant stay awake during a foundry run and I'm tired of grinding any more of my remaining toons through NF. But after 2 years, I've lasted way longer than most people that I've gotten to know in the game.

Taking little breaks here and there does help but the bottom line is... when the game just doesnt offer you anymore entertainment then it's time to either wait for an expansion/new chapter or find another game to play.
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Kas
Frost Gate Guardian
#11
Sword of the New World is actually the version where I don't wanna be. Lower version of the game with many features not implemented. And as the real version of GE does not IP Ban other countries i'll be there.

/edit:
Actually I've allready played Granado Espada in the Closed Beta that ended a few weeks ago. It is indeed as great as it is pretty. It's also a bit grindy but rather weak grind (not as mind numbing as Lightbringer or Sunspear).
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Dzan
Wilds Pathfinder
#12
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Bryant Again
Bryant Again
Hall Hero
#13
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzan
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
The post just said that they were bored, not that they're leaving.
S
Series
Banned
#14
The best thing Anet can do now, IMO, is make the hero and henchman AI stop completely sucking. Hard mode may actually be fun if you can... you know... play it. Seeing how the AI is ridiculously stupid and real people are hard to come by. Also of course, Anet decided to be boring instead of creative and just give the monsters huge buffs... no strategy needed, hooray for Build Wars.
zwei2stein
zwei2stein
Grotto Attendant
#15
Hey, that Granado Espada looks awesome, thanks for mentioning it (hellgate wont be replacement for me because devs think that grinding to top level is fun and that you should not be able to respec your character in any other way than by rectearing it)
omens
omens
Frost Gate Guardian
#16
Really if you bring a hero or 2 with prot spirt it makes hard mode a whole lot easyer. After trying to vanquish some zones without and then bringing it it makes some bosses and hard groups alot easyer, eg ruby djins and the invoke lightning bosses.
DeBron
DeBron
Lion's Arch Merchant
#17
. . . I picked up Pokemon Pearl the other day. It's very fun and nostalgic.
RuPee
RuPee
Frost Gate Guardian
#18
i guess you can say i was like you last year when i was 17. i started getting bored with gw so i tried WoW... quit after a week. then i went back to gw joined top 100 guild, got rank 4. then i tried helping anyone who would needed anything, but at the end nothing was able to get into the game the way i used to be when i just bought propehcies. now gw is something i do for 20-30 minutes every other day just to see whats up.

my advice to you: your 17, go out more and concentrate on colleges and hang out with all the friends you have... and start DATING!!! soon before you know it your leaving for college. im leaving for the air force academy in like 2 months and i regret not having enough time for these girls who just started popping into my life in a span of 6 months . so yea if your bored now, i'd say to let it be and just get out more before going away to college becomes an issue.
lyra_song
lyra_song
Hell's Protector
#19
Ya get pokemon! ^^ ah...reminds me of high school (2 senior tables doing pokemon tournaments every lunch period)
XvArchonvX
XvArchonvX
Forge Runner
#20
I have to admit that I had a good initial impression of HM when it first came out since I played it mostly in early ascalon where there were smaller groups of enemies, but later areas in HM are quite a disappointment. Now it's just a good place to farm dead bows and sephis axes to me, lol.