Skill Tomes or Skill Trainer?

I've seen elite tomes go for 10-30k a piece and normal ones somewhere between 5-10k or something. Now, shouldn't these tomes be CHEAPER than the 1k at the skill trainer to be useful or am i just RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing stupid?

Maby im missing something here, with a tome you can unlock a skill on your toon that your account already has, so if you start a new guy you don't have to go to annoying places k, but it aint worth 30k? maby it is.


I thought these tomes were supposed to help us poor pvp people but apparently not.

bye.

Wait for reality to set in. At most, a skill at the trainer costs 1,100 gold (including changing secondary), so that should be the absolute cap on the price. It makes even more sense for regular tomes to be less than that... they have less value. The skill trainer can unlock locked skills, the tomes cannot.

Elites... that price will be a bit higher simply because of the effort required to cap the skill. Maybe at most 3 to 5K would make sense.

Tomes are just things that look nice, so everybody wants them. Indeed, it makes no sense.

Just use tomes when you find em.

The tomes are only good for Skills that are in retarded areas.

See:Realm of Torment.Go PvP for a bit,Unlock the skills you want,go onto your PvE and unlock them that way.

Well like all newly introduced items, the prices will always be high in the beginning, and the tomes are no exception (sadly)

But i guess that in a month or two the price will drop to a more "friendly" value, i personally only use the ones that drop for me

(1) Supply and demand. Hard mode just released, the craze for these items is high, the new skill hunter counts as 4 titles for kind of a big deal, and they are still relatively rare.

(2) The Elite tomes save you the 1k for the capture signet and the trouble of defeating the boss, who might be out of the way (Feast of Corruption; Life Barrier), or hard to beat in his own right (Power Flux, Second Wind, certain other elementalist bosses). Saving the hassle of actually having to capture the skill is worth a premium price.

(3) Anybody paying more than 1k for a regular tome is an idiot. Regular tomes only grant you skills that you already have unlocked on your account, and skills you already have unlocked on your account can be purchased at any skill trainer (in the right game) for 1k.

i can see the normal tomes being cheeper then 1k, because youcan go and buy the normal skillsat that price... the elites are a different matter altogether - you have to go andcap those off the boss's - many of which are hard enough that there are pugs regularly gathering to go get em. i can see it being worth more to just buy a tome then spend the time and frustration to attept to go cap it again.

remember just because people are asking those kinds of price's, dosen't mean their finding buyers... usually when new items are introduced the asking prices start high because no-one knows what their worth, and there's not alot of them out there on the market -- i'd expect the prices for the elites to level off around 5k after a few months.

The non-elite tomes do not require skill points to use. I've never had problems with running out of skill points on my chars, but I'm guessing some people do and in those cases they could be quite useful.

Em.. PvP characters just unlock with Balthazar faction. Besides that, I can see the value of an Elite skill tome (although 30k seems a bit steep - way to 'kill inflation' with that update Anet) because it doesn't have to be a skill your account HAS, it just has to be UNLOCKED.

Let's say you own all three campaigns, and you have a Factions Necromancer. Let's say you want Feast of Corruption for your Curses build. Instead of having to:

• Go to Tyria
• Either get a Droks Run via Beacon's Perch or get a Sanctum Cay Run and then do the desert
• Find Maw the Mountain Heart
• Beat Maw the Mountain Heart (possibly having to repeat the above step several times before achieving this one successfully)
• Capture skill

all you have to do is:

• Go to Guild Hall
• Go to Priest of Balthazar
• Use Elite tome
• Learn skill

Now that seems like a worthwhile item to me!

Does using a skill tome require to you to spend a skill point?

If not, then that is another bonus above skill trainer. Of course, many of us have a lot of skill points to spend so it is of little concerned. Casual players may not have that luxury.

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Quite a good point actually.

Say some dimpy bimpy necro wants to play the tyria or NF campaign but they say "Aww balls! I have to go all the way to some smelly place in cantha for Flesh Golem!"

BINGO! Ill pay a ton of gold for a elite necro tome and get flesh golem that way!

Fortunate for me ive been selling tomes for at least 15k and i just cap my skills because im not lazy like some people. I dont see sense in buying them but if people will thats more gold in my pocket.

You are not "retarded." It is the common masses of idiots who pay that much who are. Since the masses set the market, they are expensive, for now. Prices will drop as reality sets in.

Well here's my first experience with skill tomes. Came on the guru buying section and saw a majority of elite tomes selling for 10-20k. I got on my monk and decided to start playing hard mode back in the begining of prophecies, but, since i have been pvping for the little time ive played in the past months, i had barely any monk elites unlocked. I had beaten prophecies and factions on my monk, but in nightfall i got a lvl 6 hero(thats a whole nother issue) and im on the noob island. Needed ZB cuz thats a staple monk skill now and what i was used to playing, so there was no way in hell i was playing thru nightfall.........alll the way to where ever in the middle of nowhere ZB is capped so that could be a reason why tomes are going to be sought after. I went to lions arch d1 and dropped 10k on one within 10minutes. as for tomes in general...i think they are going to cost alot because hey, this is guildwars and everyone exploits sumthing so they can make alot of cash.

double post.

The tomes offer the advantage of starting a new character, or a new campaign and unlocking skills without ever having to step outside if you have them unlocked on your account.

The tomes should and always will be worth more than the 1k.

You are stupid (as per the choices you gave us).

Where do you go to get Elite SKill Tomes?

elites perhaps but not regular ones, no way. But if that is not the case then i am stupid.

I was in Kamadan yesterday when I saw a player who wanted to buy an elite ritualist tome.

I replied saying: I have one, meet at storage.

He opened a trade screen.

I put my elite ritualist tome into the window.

He put a complete gem set in the trade screen.

I accepted.


Some people need to think these things through, but if they want to offer extraordinarily high payments for items that should be fairly inexpensive, who am I to argue?

Lazy... That's one way to put it...

People have many different motivations for spending pretend money. Personally, I've entered the Abaddon's Mouth mission 3 times for the sake of collecting one of the last eight elites that I need for Tyrian skillhunter, from a boss along the bonus path at the very back of the map. Unfortunately, the particular boss that I need doesn't always spawn. It may very well be that I decide to buy a tome to acquire that specific skill, out of neither idiocy nor laziness, but because I am unlucky enough to be the victim of the random spawn one time too many.

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