Do People Know they can go to The Deep Or UrgoZ

Ok so right now as I type this message Im in the deep..and I took a scroll here that I obtained from exchanging only 1k luxon faction to the rewards guy in cavalon. Since the last time there was open access to the deep and urgoz These areas WERE PACKED with what I remember 6 districts each or more flooded with people. Either people don't know they can get there any time or there isn't an interest in doing them??

You're in an American district. People usually meet in the international district for the elite missions. I don't know about The Deep, but I was in Urgoz's Warren international briefly earlier and it had plenty of people around.

They're probably out trying hard mode.

The loot now sucks in the Elite Missions. Inscriptions > Zodiac Weapons

The limited accessability to these areas contributed to their downfall. Only one out of countless alliances got to run the door. People buy games to play them, not to stand around for a half hour trying to find a taxi to a place where they can start. Even though they have now added Passage Scrolls, the nails were already in the lids of the coffins for these long ago. Also, as has been said, the loot in Nightfall is better anyway.

The surge in popularity was due in no small part to the open access weekend. I myself had never bothered to enter either the Deep or Urgoz's Warren because I thought the idea of either whoring myself out to a controlling guild for membership or paying a taxi/ferry was absurd. Open access makes these areas popular HINT HINT anet!!!

Edit: Well I got beaten to that point...so I'll just say playing these areas for the challenge and personal achievement and being able to say "I killed Kanaxai/Urgoz!" was more valuable to me than any loot I could get from either mission. Want to see another surge in popularity? Open the access up with NPC's in Kaineng Center again for a weekend...they will be absolutely packed.

Agreed with above.

Also, while they are a challange, the amount of time you put out to complete it makes it less popular.

Why would people wanna waste 1000 Lux/Kurz faction to go to an empty place that they won't find a party in when they can instead use that same 1000 faction for a piece of Amber or Jade that will get them a bit of gold.

Those missions should be made open to everyone on a permanent basis, as should UW/FOW. Passage scrolls are not a proper solution.

thos areas could easily be given to a god statue like the deep could go to melandru , and urgoz's could go to lyssa or dwanya

Scrolls are fine, i still dont know where everyone is lol.

That's the point...
International most of the time has people in it

Everyone that wanted to play those Elite mission, mostly likely did so during the free weekend. It was great to get to do them. But the novelty wore off. Spending 2-4 hours in a PvE mission is now reserved for DoA, which drop inscribable weapons and things that a generally worth more, like Titan gems.

In order to keep intrest in these type of places it would be great if phophcies and factions drops became inscribable. But that won't happend anytime soo n unfortuantly. Even if it makes perfect sense for it to be so.

More like inscriptions >>>>> everything that drops in Tyria and Cantha.

i think easier access to urgoz/the deep was just greatly overshadowed by HM. which might be a good thing, tbh, as HM gives more PvE'ers a taste of challenge and prepares them a bit for urgoz/the deep. might lead to more people becoming interested in such a challenge, and perhaps lead to better groups in said areas.

wishful thinking though, perhaps. i'd just once like to hop into urgoz and not have to wait an hour+ to form a full group.

Do the elite missions have a hard mode ?

If yes, does anyone know if completing them is actually possible on HM ?

Yes the elite missions do have hard mode. Dunno if they have actually been completed. But it would be nice to get 6 bows or weapons instead of 6. Or better yet 12 weps.

Urgoz/Deep = boring grind with no good rewards

The final greens weren't so good in the beginning, and since Nightfall, they're just no good stats-wise. Also the Zodiac skin has long fallen out of fashion.

We did Tombs: Hard Mode Edition over the weekend. Wasn't much different to fight; mobs have larger aggro bubble and follow you much farther, but other than that... More random golds dropped, about the same average ecto (3), etc. Still purples in the chests sometimes, and the Darknesses did not drop double greens. I imagine Urgoz/Kanaxai each just drop their 3 and no more.

In fact, one of the Darknesses did not drop any greens, just a silly white Tall Shield lol.

Twas fun though!

Because 1000 faction isn't free - I would *much* rather have the jadeite or amber.

I was there on the free weekend, might be if they ran another. Having hard mode makes it even more worthless. The only two "elite" missions I care about are the UW and FoW - I would care about DoA but no henchies and no solo builds I am good enough to run. Even then I rarely go to the UW or FoW due to the cost. Until the recent farming scale I, personally, made about the same (since I am personally not the greatest 55 farmer - I like to farm and watch TV and that isn't enough focus on what is going on to survive). There are things they could do to change that, but most likely it isn't going to happen.

With the newer loot system I'll probably farm UW when I need money, other than that I have ToPK and hard mode to fool with if I want a challenge or to group farm. If they would ever allow hench in DoA I would add that in.