Public relations nightmare!

pvp uses maximum crap armor... it sucks... why not just make a pvp char then??? the only reason i make pve chars is because they are unique when u use them in pvp... now i get to use crappy normal armor just like a pvper...

why not just delete my pve char since ill never get any shiny stuff anymore anyways... (except that i got acouple nice stuff that'll keep my chars from being terminated *obviously found b4 update during my literally* spare time)

The problem isn't that there are better rewards for playing with people. The problem is that they didn't do that.

Drop rates weren't increased in the slightest, as far as I (and others) can tell. In an 8 man group you still get 1 item per enemy every time, and it's still split among all 8 of you. Instead, playing solo gives you 1/8th of the drops, two players gives 2/8th, etc.

So, guess what. Remember that high end equipment only farmers could afford? Now no one can afford them.

wouldnt be too worried hes been flaming in every other thread on the topic.

Gaile,

You say ‘designed to support the social aspects of game play’ – Heroes killed that stone dead in NF

Reducing the drop rate, (removing the anti-farming code makes no difference to this), will kill solo farming. Just not worth the effort anymore.

This is, in my opinion, a bad move for the game in general.

This will completely change the GW economy in my opinion and result in the poor staying poor!

'Universal outpouring of appreciation' – I think not!

Well technically you dont NEED to play this game, but you do so for fun right?

I just can't believe they thought it would go unnoticed. I really don't even solo, my 8 toons have the necessary equipment and gadgets. I prefer to do missions with Pug's and guildies and do quests with heroes and henchies, but I know I am in the minority of people that have played this game as long as i have. My only advice is when you release GW2 and make it a kickarse game, plz don't take out all the aspects that make it fun in updates(nerfs).

So no farm code, but now I have to work 8 times harder and longer to get the same ammount of gold I used to? What happened to anet not wanting Guild Wars to be a grindfest? Seems like a step in an opposite direction to me. =\

anet has a nerf mentality, they nerf things instead of buffing the counters to what they think is a problem.

net effect, frustrated players.

Oh that's a classic one. Fun doesn't equal armors which I can attain by not having fun which would equal solo farming.

In the same vein, you also don't need to play the game. You play it do have fun, correct?

Some people enjoy getting armor. I know that I, for one, enjoyed earning money for the armor of my choice. I had fun.

Congratulations, you've realized that people are different and have differing opinions!

I enjoyed farming, as did countless other people. You didn't. So what, that doesn't mean you're more right nor does it mean we are. At least the option was there. Now there is no option other than to do nothing but play the game normally.

Just because I have posted it in all of the farming nerf threads, and because it will let Gaile understand why people hate the change:

Here is an example of why it is so bad:

This was with a full group, I got similar results when I did this solo.

That's your opinion champ. Some people like myself love solo farming because it takes you away from the PUG elitist-fest and makes you feel like a badass.

no one needs 15k armor...but its in that game so someone can look good and feal good about themselves...but whats the point now? the way Anet seems to be going they should just take fissure armors and 15k armors out of the game..

Now on topic...I think that Gaile and the rest of Anet will find that their servers run better with less people on them. When all those kids and adults have their weekend to play and they get on they will be in a total uproar. Sorry Anet but you screwed yourself...at least the idea of a non-subscription game lasting this long was good...hope blizzard takes yall back.

Please just stop

I agree that they should have upped the drop rate for group farmers or did something like having a monster drop one thing for every PC in the group. My first impression of the update however is different than yours. I think it's a bad update because keeping farmable objects in supply kept the costs of them down for the players. That's how economics works. Since there is now no reason to solo farm, and people won't do it, except for the challenge. Furthermore if this update deters farmers from going out and doing their thing, prices will go up even more.

So drop rates are down, GP drops in hard mode aren't anything to brag about either (which might be sole good thing in an otherwise bad update), there's less incentive to farm, and lockpicks break too easily unless you've spent a ton of money on opening chests (at least 60K for the first TH title and a 2% boost) or the lucky title which is pretty rare to get and expenisve as well.


JR, if anet wanted to stop botting they'd go to granite citidel and start taking the names of all the bot monks who leave the town the exact same way.

OK I will.12

Try not to use facts here, they aren't going to help the situation.


It's not a grindfest, you just need 7 more people to go with you and hand over all the loot.

You should really try going to ToA a dist 1 or any other place where people farm. That is if anyone is still there.

I farm but I don't run around with a ele sword or some other highly expensive weapon. I don't even have 1 set of 15k armor I spend ALL of my money on making new toons or getting weapons for my heros (they also do not have very expensive weapons). I'm a casual farmer if I need money I would like to farm the UW once get a ecto and buy whatever I need then go on my way beating the game again.

IMO this was one of the biggest mess-ups anet has done so far.

Shut the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO up.

Quoted for motherRED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing emphasis.