Ok, I no longer loathe GW2 now.

This almost definitely means that my FoW armor will carry on, making me feel anger no longer at Anet. My high HA rank (which I haven't actually cared about since 6vs6) will cary over, and my minis! Yay!
Anet DOES love us.

We're not going to be able to transfer minis, how would that even work?

They said miniatures. They'll make it work, they ARE the dev team, after all . :O

Pay attention to these specific words:

You won't likely be keeping anything you currently have, rather, what you currently have will give you access to new stuff, exclusive, unique stuff, but not the same. So no, you will probably not get to keep your FoW armor, but you may get a cool outfit with little to no armor that says to the world "Hey, my ancestor had FoW armor! Look at me!".

EDIT: Minis will probably be little gifts that represent your "ancestors" titles. PvP titles might give you access to special weapons. But I seriously doubt your new GW2 character is going to be walking around able to flash a wolf and sportin' Obsidian and a mini Titan. No.

nothing that transfers is anything you have now. the hall of monuments is stuff you are unlocking for GW2. so you wouldnt be able to transfer your own mini, but would be able to unlock a new mini for when you get GW2.

That's admittedly a possibility, however it certainly could still be the other way around. Your opinion is far too pessimistic, methinks. I think Anet is willing to reward players who are established in Guild Wars 1 for buying Guild Wars 2. They have already anticipated people like me, who will most likely be unwilling to purchase GW2 if it doesn't give me the proper respect for having played Guild Wars as much as I already have. I will not say that Anet hasn't used strange wording in the past to slip by something that the gamers weren't particularly fond of, but I think it will be too much of a major selling point to go shy on the gifts given to long-time players, especially after all the hype Gaile Gray has been spewing about play investment, and how they want to reward the old-school GW fans. As a matter of fact, you could be correct, but still incorrect in your thinking. They may even have very elaborate FoW armors available to fow owners that surpass and exceed the originals in style and use. The reason for saying "giving you access to exclusive" and using the word "access" specifically may very well be their means of making it fair that you get usable FoW armor, and not just press /bonus to get it as soon as you start a character.

Time will tell, but don't give Anet so little credit so early into the game.

That's exactly how it reads to me too.
All these people that are thinking "Yay, I'm going to keep my FOW/minipet/titles!" had better get ready for a disapointment. OK maybe, just maybe, it will turn out that we will unlock replica FOW for our GW2 toons, but I'd bet a Superior Vigor rune that anything we unlock will be cosmetic only.

As I have personally translated most of the descriptions, I believe that you can unluck certain monuments in GW:EN that will unlock exclusive things (such as minipets).

exclusive items are like the pre-order daggers. Probably uniquely skinned aesthetic items or weapons that you can only get by linking a GW1 account.

Sorry, don't mean disrespect by piecing your reply apart, but it helps to explain my PoV better.

To be honest, I'd much rather it be this way, to keep everyone on an even playing field at the start of a new game. So, in a way, I'm being optimistic.

Proper respect is really a subjective thing. What you think is proper and "good enough" others won't. I, personally think it's "good enough", you obviously don't.

Again, it is a reward if it's similar to how I stated it. I think it's perfectly fine getting a bunch of stuff to show off what your new character's ancestors have accomplished, without "overdoing" it and giving veterans huge head starts.

No way. Style, maybe, strictly cosmetic is okay with me. Use? Like what, better armor? More features? Just, no.

I have a feeling it will require a quest or two, anyway, and perhaps even access to the Hall of Monuments later on in the game. That's possible, and I have no problems with it. But as far as you getting FoW armor just because your GW1 character had it, I seriously, seriously doubt it.

I think it is you giving them too little credit. Everyone starting GW2 at ZERO is IMO a much, much better idea than "Hey, I still gots all my stuffs!"

What we have here is another case of gamer's ego where an overly obsessed gamer demands satisfaction for an achievement or ingame item that gamer spent days and days with it's butt stuck in a chair stalking it's prize. It's main diet consists of grind in videogames because grind is easy and time consuming but this gamer has plenty of time to stalk it's prey.

Ego gamers are easily recognized by it's round body and pale skin. Approach with caution as they are scared of human interaction!

I'm actually extreamily curious what ANet has planned for this thing. Will it be a "one time" switch from GW1 to GW2? Or is it constantly updated, while you continue to play GW1?

Actually, I kinda just want to know what it is first before I start asking such questions. >.<

I hardly felt like you were doing it for anything more than just explaining your point of view, as I did mine.

Guild Wars has proven that things can be uneven, and still be balanced. I have put more time into the game, and I therefore have more than someone who just starts. Be it a new game or not, it is still within a series, and the fact that they have a hall of monuments at ALL proves my perspective is being taken into account, at the very least.

It's not only about respect. Something noting that I had FoW armor, or rank 12 during GW1 is certainly "good enough" in terms of respect, but other things, like the time I have put in to a game which has more or less been cancelled, are a different matter entirely.

I said something about how these things may be "unlockables" rather than out-the-door gifts. That I can deal with, as long as I do, in fact, get them.

Eh, what I meant was that it would be better than the armor you get at start, though you wouldn't get it until it was reasonable to have:
I think, and hope, that it will be more than this. So on this I agree with you, I don't want it to give me an advantage, persay, other than cosmetic awesomeness.

I don't see why not. It would be proper payment for the people who committed to Guild Wars as a twice-a-year investment in which our characters would continue to grow throughout various continuing chapters. People who played GW1 as long as I have don't want to just "start again". I spent months acquiring everything I needed for FoW armor. I consider that one of my major investments in the game, along with my titles. Minipets... eh... I could really care less... :s

I didn't necessarily disagree with this. I don't actually want to turn on the game and just be like: OMG MY VICTO'S BATTLE AXE WAHOO LOL. I'm willing to earn it, as long as the investment of time isn't anywhere near what I already had to go through to get them.

It's a good debate, me being the long-time gamer wanting to see continuity of play throughout my Guild Wars gaming experience, and you wanting a clean slate. I think Anet will satisfy both to some extent, but my opinion and wants are [obviously] preferable to me.

Lol transfer fow armor hahaha that is one hilarious misconception. all they mean is hats that is all. Just useless stuff like mini and hats so people will flood there inventory with crap once again.

Sigh, I hate getting into these arguments about whether or not the Hall of Monuments transfers items....


Anyway, even if anything can be transfered (which I highly doubt..), I'd say armor won't be one of those things. I just can't see them remodeling every armor skin, for every profession, from every campaign to fit every race. In response to this people have stated that perhaps they will transfer for only human characters. I just can't see Anet doing that to us, someone wanted to make a charr warrior but their fow armor only fits humans so he abandons his charr dreams- it's just much more logical to unlock all new exclusive gear than transferring old stuff.

think back on reconnects, observer mode, and the better trading system. enough said.

I just remembered, on the topic of rank:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...postcount=1683

Might not see that transferring either

I knew "fame" in any general sense wouldn't transfer, but rather you'd have a title.

Worse comes to worse if Anet bones me I'll just sell my GW1 account off for a few hundred dollers just to spite them. If they wont make my old account useful [to my standards and specifications], what do I need it for?

nothing you have now transfers over, the only things that transfer are what you unlock in GWEN, and nothing else. no Fissure, no HA ranks, NOTHING

I'm wondering how minipets will effect transfers....

I can honestly see them transferring in full. Sure, they'll ahve to redo the models for the new game, but there aren't *that* many pets out there...

As for items/armor/etc, I doubt they'll transfer. I can see stuff like "Having Protector of XXX" unlocks a missions with a special reward. Having "Master Cartogropher" unlocks maybe a new item (such as maps) for regions. Things like this is what will happen methinks.