The community is rude

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J snukka
Lion's Arch Merchant
#1
I don't get people. I remember when everyone asked/begged/annoyed the shit out of Anet for a party search feature so it can make it easier for everyone to find a group to mission or pvp etc. I went to the Temple of Ages which currently has 14 districts but when you search for a group only 6 requests are posted for group formation to enter FoW or UW. But when you enter each district you have everyone typing in chat LFG or GLF blah blah blah. these people could be using the search feature but aren't

Don't you find this disrespectful to the developing team that worked on creating this feature for those whining bastards and all everyone does is still spam the chat. It just pisses me off that people can't appreciate things done for them.
[DE]
[DE]
Hugs and Kisses
#2
No I don't find it disrespectful at all. Anet simply gave the player base another option to look for a group and sell stuff, whether they use it or not is entirely up to them.
Archangel Xavier
Archangel Xavier
Academy Page
#3
I agree, it is rather lame that the devs added the feature only to have it shunned by the community. Am I surprised? No. While there are probably many people who feel the Party Search is great addition, the community as a whole could care less. Similiar concept to spamming trades in the local channel. We know we shouldn't do it, but in many cases we are forced to becasue otherwise it mean not being able to make the sale.
Demilikos
Demilikos
Academy Page
#4
It was implemented late and everyone has old habits. I try to encourage its use when I can.
Bankai
Bankai
Desert Nomad
#5
The message length is too short, the window feels cramped.

I don't see why nobody uses it though.
nbajammer
nbajammer
Krytan Explorer
#6
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bankai
The message length is too short, the window feels cramped.

I don't see why nobody uses it though.
That's probably why no one uses it - if it allowed the same number of characters as the chat window, it might take off better.
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Stank Tank
Ascalonian Squire
#7
Wait...there's a trade channel?
VitisVinifera
VitisVinifera
Banned
#8
it's not fully implemented, and it came SO far after the fact, the community stuck with what it developed itself.

it's anet who let you down, snukka
Rhedd
Rhedd
Wilds Pathfinder
#9
I've been wondering about this for some time, now. It struck me that maybe we're all wrongly assuming that the majority of players even KNOW about it. I mean, the button is small, and if you don't read the forums regularly (don't assume every player does), you might simply not know about the feature.

Still, it drives me INSANE listening to the continually repeated spam for selling and parties, when it would be so much easier on them if they just used the search feature.

Having used it once, though, I agree that the text is way too short. I couldn't possibly abbreviate enough to explain what I was really looking for. I have to admit that cripples the system quite a bit, and should be fixed.
Silent Coyote
Silent Coyote
Frost Gate Guardian
#10
I agree it kinda annoys me as well that people don't use it. However as others have said it lacks functionality. For example you cant see who is already in a group (profession level etc) and the message length is to short.

Even if they fixed that though I doubt many people would use it, old habits die hard.
K
Kook~NBK~
Grotto Attendant
#11
As has already been pointed out:
1. Message space is to small for many things, but for selling green weapons, dyes, and ectos, for example, it's fine.
2. Old habits die hard, everyone is so used to using text chat for WTB/WTS/ LFG/ etc. that they're not going to change for something else.
3. Many people don't even know about this feature.
4. People who do know about it see the lack of activity in the party window and don't even bother.

Is it rude not to use this feature? I don't think so. Everyone is doing exactly what they've been doing since release of GW. Just because there's a new feature doesn't make people rude for not using it. I don't use the new ways of displaying skills in my "K" window, I only use the by profession or by attribute displays. Is it rude or disrespectful of me not to? Of course not.

The rudeness comes from people who constantly spam in the chat channels - local or otherwise. (All they're really saying is "Pay attention to me!")
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DeXyre
Academy Page
#12
I use party search
Real easy to select my heroes/hench
Rhedd
Rhedd
Wilds Pathfinder
#13
Quote:
Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
it's not fully implemented, and it came SO far after the fact, the community stuck with what it developed itself.

it's anet who let you down, snukka
How is it not "fully implemented"? The system seems to work exactly as intended, to me.

Also, the community didn't stick with "what it developed itself". It didn't "develop" anything except an annoying, overly-time-consuming system of stupid spamming which just gets lost in the sea of other stupid spamming.

You'd think people would welcome an end to that. They sure say they would when they're bitching on this forum. ^_^
natuxatu
natuxatu
Wilds Pathfinder
#14
It's fully implemented yeah but it's not very functional for the reasons posted above. But yes the community is very immature as a whole, at least with my experiences. One of many examples is just the other day someone disagreed with the fact that I said Guild Wars 2 had a promise, so while in the game they decided to flame me with their characters calling me all sorts of names. Fun stuff.
Bryant Again
Bryant Again
Hall Hero
#16
Yeah, the entries for the party are too short. That's also why no one uses it for trades.
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Antheus
Forge Runner
#17
The party search function is, mildly put, useless.

You don't make a party for easy areas. And for difficult ones, you need a very specific group set up.

With those 20 or so characters you can hardly spell out what you intend to do, let alone the builds. In addition, the notification system makes it really hard to find who wants to join, and it takes up entire screen leaving you unable to do anything else while waiting.

The only thing you can use the party search for is setting up tombs group: "B/P group LF b/p, bip, monk".

But try putting together a FOW group. "FOW group LF 2 echo nukers, a bonder, a healer, ...". All you can squeeze in is "FOW group LF 2 echo nukers, bon"

And abbreviating makes it undecypherable "FOW GLF 2 nuk,1bnd,1heal,1STnk".

No, it's useless. That's why nobody uses it.
B
Blame the Monks
Krytan Explorer
#18
Party search missed the point -- people didn't need help forming PUGs, they needed help forming long term friendships and guilds. As party search didn't address a need anyone has, it is rarely used and then only for spam.
strcpy
strcpy
Desert Nomad
#19
For trade, I sorta understand. For one thing a certain amount of trade is impulse - pop into town and notice someone selling something you kinda want a price you find good. Unfortunately the *only* way to do that is through the main channel and this is true regardless of the game. About the only way to stop it is for the mods to be harsh on it (I wish they were, the trade towns are almost impossible to carry on any type of conversation). The trade channel, or any type of trade system you have to actively choose to look at, only catches people looking to purchase something. Currently I may make an impulse type buy (rarely, and it has to be cheap enough to overcome my irritation at spamming local chat) and will only purchase something I am looking for through the trade channel or party window.

As far as forming a party - don't know. All of the above problems I see on it are in the local chat also. While I generally agree that the length ought to be longer, spamming "LFG, Monks or warriors needed for masters run only" isn't exactly "detailed". Nor does the lack of being able to see party makeup somehow mitigated by spamming in local channel - that is taken care of in whispers. In both cases you are just as restricted yet your message spans across all the districts with the party window. It's like refusing to change from a worn out Yugo to a Corvette because it's not as good as a Ferrarri. To some extent you are right - you *really* want that Ferrarri and it *is* a better car, however the upgrade is still a pretty decent improvement.

My guess is that most do not really know much about it and just use what they are comfortable with. Only a very small percentage read forums, an even smaller is active in them. You have to remember that both in what you expect regular players to know and how accurate you think the general forum opinion is compared to the actual population.
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The Great Al
Forge Runner
#20
most towns only have 1 active district, so what's the point? it's easier to just use the chat to find parties