Working on my ele air build.

Heyo.

I just started playing again and got Nightfall, and was wondering if any new spells came out worth replacing an old one. This has always served me well before however, as a high damage burnout build with great melee survivability.

(I just changed it to some new more favorable spells, but still can't decide between Elemental Attunement or Glyph of Energy.


1. Lightning Strike.
2. Lightning Orb.
3. Enervating Charge
4. Blinding Flash.
5. Shock.
6. Aura of Restoration.
7. Elemental Attunement or Glyph of Energy.
8. Rez Signet.

dual attunements+lightning hammer. It's a lot of fun, but really fragile.

I just tried a dual attun lightening hammer with mystic regen of course.. I just can't drop that mystic regen on my ele no matter what I do!! anyways it's decent. Lightening hammer hurts.

since he doesnt even say he HAS factions... i would assume when he says he stopped playing it and started again with NF he doesnt even have factions...

anyways look up invoke lightning and blinding surge. theyre 2 new air elites that are really nice for pve (and BS for gvg...imo still). lightning bolt is fun, storm djinns haste is fun... /derv is really nice on an ele mainly because you can just sit there with various enchants and your suvivability skyrockets...

Or you could use your secondary for something useful, and learn to kite instead.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Coloneh /agree

glyph of sac + rez chant ftw NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

"Sorry guys, I can't do much damage....BUT I CAN RES YOU ALL REAL QUICK!"

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Quote: Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

The cookie cutter air spike guy looks something like:

[skill]lightning hammer[/skill][skill]lightning orb[/skill][skill]gale[/skill][skill]blinding flash[/skill][skill]aura of restoration[/skill][skill]air attunement[/skill][skill]elemental attunement[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

With dual 20% recharge items you'll be able to spam hammer->orb all day long. With the gale nerf, it's less attractive in PvE, so I would probably just take chain lightning. It's still money in low end PvP though, so meh.

Quote: Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"Sorry guys, I can't do much damage....BUT I CAN RES YOU ALL REAL QUICK!" 2-3 damage skills is usually more than enough to spam away all day long. You should be able to dig up the slots in most builds. The concept is not that you do little damage, but that in your using 2 slots, the rest of your team can conceivably use those slots for rez sigs/other skills. Every team needs one hard rezzer, and eles are damn good at it.

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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver I do away with an energy management elite altogether and go with this: [skill]Air Attunement[/skill][skill]Aura of Restoration[/skill][skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill][skill]Blinding Flash[/skill][skill]Lightning Hammer[/skill][skill]Lightning Strike[/skill][skill]Enervating Charge[/skill][skill]Invoke Lightning[/skill] Invoke lightning really isn't very interesting outside of a coordinated spike with other eles. The recharge time is a bit long to rely on for AoE damage, especiialy for an elite. Also, without elemental attunement, lightning hammer isn't so sexy. You can't take advantage of that 4 second recharge because it will kill your energy very, very fast.

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Celestial Beaver, there's nothing wrong with a res. Don't make me copy and past one of my previous posts in response to your ridiculous rhetoric of no res skills being okay on ANY character.

Quote: Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove Invoke lightning really isn't very interesting outside of a coordinated spike with other eles. The recharge time is a bit long to rely on for AoE damage, especiialy for an elite. Also, without elemental attunement, lightning hammer isn't so sexy. You can't take advantage of that 4 second recharge because it will kill your energy very, very fast. Mmmkay, I use Invoke Lightning because it's a fun skill...and my favourite in the game. I also don't like HAVING to take an energy storage elite when <Element> Attunement + GoLE is a perfectly sound combination. As for Lightning Hammer...I used that throughout the Gate of Madness last night. As for Lightning Hammer, perhaps you can't manage your energy well without an energy storage elite... *shrugs* I can...

On a side note, before Lightning Hammer for buffed, I took Chain Lightning. That was fun, but useless in areas of high interruption.

Quote: Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex How does going /Mo for THE BEST RES IN THE GAME mean you don't do any less damage? Hmm, I know a fair few people who would disagree that resurrection chant with it's now 15 second recharge AND the 30 second recharge added by GoS is not the BEST res in the game. Also, I, from a monk's point of view, get's extremely annoyed when someone resses someone before me. I would rather they focussed on killing things and let me deal with the healing and the resurrecting.

Quote: Originally Posted by jesh Celestial Beaver, there's nothing wrong with a res. Don't make me copy and past one of my previous posts in response to your ridiculous rhetoric of no res skills being okay on ANY character. Ahh, jesh, as soon as I saw you posted I knew it would be a peach
Ok, evidently my post didn't make it too clear. My beef is with Glyph of Sacrifice and Resurrection Chant. I don't mind if people want to take a res which utilises one skill slot...and *shock* *horror* I even take a res when I'm not ele!! But as I have said before...I don't take a res, in particular resurrection signet, when I play ele because if the ele is the last one alive...your team sucks and you should go with henchmen. So you can go right on ahead and copy and paste whatever you like...although It is not any old res that I disagree with...

Basically, I will not be swayed that GoS + Res Chant is a "must-have" on any elementalist bar UNTIL they assign Ressurection Chant to the Energy Storage line.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver As for Lightning Hammer, perhaps you can't manage your energy well without an energy storage elite... *shrugs* I can... Hey, I can manage my energy with Lightning Hammer and no energy elite as well. However personally when I'm playing a Lightning Hammer Elementalist, it's because I want to pump out damage, and you can't do that by wanding.

If you're a subscriber of the 'wait here for a minute guys while my "blue bars go up" energy management does its thing!' school of energy management, Lightning Hammer without an energy elite will work ok against trash mobs. If you're a subscriber of the 'downtime is a waste of time and active emanagement keeps the train going' school of thought, Lightning Hammer with no energy elite is a trainwreck. "Blue bar has four arrows" is not enough.


Quote: Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver Hmm, I know a fair few people who would disagree that resurrection chant with it's now 15 second recharge AND the 30 second recharge added by GoS is not the BEST res in the game. Those people are wrong. There's not a hard res option in the game that can even hold a candle to Glyph of Sacrifice / Resurrection Chant.


Quote: Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver Also, I, from a monk's point of view, get's extremely annoyed when someone resses someone before me. I think that if I ever catch my Monks combat ressing when someone dies mid-fight, that I need to find new Monks.

Quote: Originally Posted by Ensign If you're a subscriber of the 'wait here for a minute guys while my "blue bars go up" energy management does its thing!' school of energy management, Lightning Hammer without an energy elite will work ok against trash mobs. If you're a subscriber of the 'downtime is a waste of time and active emanagement keeps the train going' school of thought, Lightning Hammer with no energy elite is a trainwreck. "Blue bar has four arrows" is not enough. As I have already stated on this forum many MANY times before my energy rarely falls below 50%.

Quote: Originally Posted by Ensign Those people are wrong. There's not a hard res option in the game that can even hold a candle to Glyph of Sacrifice / Resurrection Chant. How is a 45 second recharge-res a worthwhile addition to a skillbar?

Quote: Originally Posted by Ensign I think that if I ever catch my Monks combat ressing when someone dies mid-fight, that I need to find new Monks. Personal judgement ftw.

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The heal from Renew is cute... But chant has a number of advantages, namely more energy, (generally) more health and the fact it isn't a touch spell.

Chant is already half range though and since GoS would make Renew instant would it matter that it's touch?

It does if there's aatxe around .

Heh... It's the bonus energy that is more useful overall though - I'd rather res the monk with enough energy to start healing again.