Is Razah worth it?

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creelie
creelie
Wilds Pathfinder
#1
Normally I loves me some Guild Wars, but the monsters in Domain of Anguish could harsh Bob Marley's buzz. The PvE mobs aren't much fun either.

I have no interest in any item I would hesitate to customize, nor in selling gemstones for massive profit. Those of you who have the ritualist in your hero stable and got him by questing, is he all by himself USEFUL enough to justify what you went through to get him?
Lady Ana Stacia
Lady Ana Stacia
Krytan Explorer
#2
My husband and I have been doing DoA and just recently got him Razah. We got the titan gem doing the foundry and he bought the remaining stones needed. I would say he is definitely a choice and not a must have. Personally I am not all inclined to get him but might for 1 charactor.

Definitely don't think he is worth it tho for all 12 of my charactors!


Guess it boils down to how badly do you want a rit hero? For me DoA isn't about Razah but the accomplishment of completing all the missions successfully.
Abyss1
Abyss1
Frost Gate Guardian
#3
OK so me beeing the above mentioned hubby........

Razah was for me something I wanted on this one character just to have it. I made him Rit LOrd with a twist due to energy and hero's just not beeing all that smart. He works but to say I can't do without no he takes a spot normally used either for my hero MM or prot monk and probably not be used a lot.....
Meo Yeong
Meo Yeong
Krytan Explorer
#4
I wouldnt worry about Razah till the gems are super cheap. In my opinion 120k for a hero is stupid and not worth it. Only time I could see some use out of him is for pvp and then all you need is 6000 points to unlock him which is easy to get and cheaper. Id rather waste my sets of gems on a coffers lol.

Also for the pve part of the game you only need 3-4 of the heroes to make it thru the game yourself other then when they mandatory a mission which even if they at low level you can still beat them. Those heroes are Koss, whispers and norgu. Only reason I said 3-4 is because you can get olias that way dont have to keep switching whispers from ss to mm. With those characters you can make it thru the game including gates of madness by yourself.
creelie
creelie
Wilds Pathfinder
#5
Thank you for your thoughts, everyone!

Meo Yeong, that's an interesting point - do you think there's a good chance that gems will get cheaper over time? An awful lot seem to be going towards coffers and armbraces, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.
Pro Border Crosser
Pro Border Crosser
Ascalonian Squire
#6
Everything tends to get cheaper, although might not happen quickly with gems and ambrace especially. Once more and more people get through DOA in the next couple months, I see pretty reasonable prices.
Bowstring Badass
Bowstring Badass
Forge Runner
#7
DoA = waste of time

Seriously if I am going to waste time I will do something useful like do Random Arenas and get my Balthazar Faction over 1 million (at 880k at the moment). Razah is not worth the what 2 1/2 hours to get. Seriously if you want to use your time go ahead but man your wasting good time to go into Random Arenas and see some stupid **** people are saying.
Meo Yeong
Meo Yeong
Krytan Explorer
#8
Well this is just an opinion but gem prices have been going down slowly. We looking at 70k titan, 8k stygians, 12k margonits and 16k torment. They where all higher then that no longer then a week ago.

However, DOA seems to be slowing down since people are getting frustrated with not getting groups and such. Also they fixed a bug so getting those 4 final gems for ebony citadel is not as easy as before so peopel are spending more time trying to get thru ebony citadel instead of the other missins and farming. This slightly reduces teh pool of gems comin in from that.


So overall all I really can say is time will tell. Note though that in gw most items go down eventually after they wear off being the latest and greatest.
Li Tian
Li Tian
Frost Gate Guardian
#9
I personally find Razah useful in PVE, where you have the time to fully utilise the spirits and skills. Not in every PVE build but enough to make him useful.

Plus as mentioned he is the natural conclusion of the elonian map, so eventually you will get him.

I dont personally see why he has been made so tough to get, however yes I would get him and as with all items in GW the gem prices if you plan to buy them will fall.
KennyC
KennyC
Frost Gate Guardian
#10
People keep mentioning that its tough to get Razah, it expensive - so what? If everything was easy there would be nothing to aspire to and everyone would have the best equipment and tons of cash.

I'm glad it's hard, it's all a learning/ability curve and there has to be a high end.
Meo Yeong
Meo Yeong
Krytan Explorer
#11
lol, a high end hero thats useless lol
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--Vlad--
Banned
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass
DoA = waste of time

Seriously if I am going to waste time I will do something useful like do Random Arenas and get my Balthazar Faction over 1 million (at 880k at the moment). Razah is not worth the what 2 1/2 hours to get. Seriously if you want to use your time go ahead but man your wasting good time to go into Random Arenas and see some stupid **** people are saying. Well, that is your personal preference. Some people like 2+ hour quests, or farming runs, or in this case... "Hero Capping". Myself included in that, I would rather spend my time doing this then doing RA.

What my be a complete waste of your time, my be valuable to others.
L|S >+>+G+<+<
L|S >+>+G+<+<
Krytan Explorer
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by KennyC
People keep mentioning that its tough to get Razah, it expensive - so what? If everything was easy there would be nothing to aspire to and everyone would have the best equipment and tons of cash.

I'm glad it's hard, it's all a learning/ability curve and there has to be a high end. I'm glad it's hard too and agree but why put a silly rt at the end ? it's pointless.
why not just have a super boss or something similar and a team of 12 trying to defeat him or her?



you get all other hero's easily & then a sill rt boss at the end..... silly...v silly...
Karlos
Karlos
Master of Mallyx
#14
Going back on track...

Razah is worth what having a ritualist is worth. If you've never used a ritualist and could not care less about them, then he's not worth a whole lot. If you have played rits and know how a well placed Shelter can make that fight against The Drought a piece of cake or how a well placed Displacement can render the most terrifying of warrior bosses inept... Then you know what he's worth.

As an example, Razah is the MOST useful hero (if we're comparing heroes) against Mallyx himself. Mallyx has no answer to spirits. So, Razah can lay down Shelter + Union + Displacement and your party can actually stand there and fight the guy without having to do the rebirth trick or run around like headless chicken. Of course, a human Rit Lord would be 50 times better, but among heroes, yeah, he would be the most useful in that fight.

On the flip side, you can just go through all of PvE with 2 SF ele heroes and the rest really does not matter until you get to the Realm of Torment.

To summarize, he DOES give you a dimension that no other hero can give you, but if you're just looking for a bunch of joes to get you to your cap spots and stuff, then he won't be worth 100k+. You can always wait till Titan Gems are 5k and then get him.
Oso Minar
Oso Minar
Lion's Arch Merchant
#15
I'm a Ritualist. I've spent many a platinum purchasing every Ritualist skill and the Capture Signets to capture all the Elites. I absolutely love the Ritualist class, and many a time have found myself wondering "Man, if only I had another Ritualist for (insert any four skills here)! 8 slots is not enough!"

That being said, I most certainly will eventually be attempting to unlock Razah soon. I'm putting other things higher on the priority list until things start calming down in the DoA, but rest assured I will be making every effort to get those gems and pick him up.
GloryFox
GloryFox
Desert Nomad
#16
I find him worth it since I have all Ritualist skills unlocked. However if you do not have a Ritualist with many skills unlocked don't waste your time.

I have him unlocked for three characters all from doing and completing the DoA quests with one character. This has taken 2 months of hard work to accomplish.

I find PvE Razah as an accomplishment and will not complain if ANET makes an alternative HERO Rit for others to get.

HINT HINT
Even if they hand one out someday?
SnipiousMax
SnipiousMax
Perfectly Elocuted
#17
With the impending nerf to Searing flames, and the impending buff to the channeling line... it might be worth having him.
C
Cherno
Forge Runner
#18
Is he worth it? Ask yourself this...

Did you play a ritualist? Did you like it? Have you picked ritualit henchies when playing the games?
Arkantos
Arkantos
The Greatest
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass
DoA = waste of time

Seriously if I am going to waste time I will do something useful like do Random Arenas and get my Balthazar Faction over 1 million (at 880k at the moment). Razah is not worth the what 2 1/2 hours to get. Seriously if you want to use your time go ahead but man your wasting good time to go into Random Arenas and see some stupid **** people are saying. If you don't think RA is a waste of time, you should uninstall.
Thom Bangalter
Thom Bangalter
Grindin'
#20
He was certainly worth 6k faction.