oh the touchie our good ol' friend

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You just got tomahawked
You just got tomahawked
Krytan Explorer
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I play RA alot with my monk. I don't usually play a healing monk because you need protection from wars, sins, thumpers wailing on you. So, until recently I'd come across a touchie once and awhile and they'd tear me apart because im prot and the most I can do is heal myself with Divine Favor. But recently they've invaded. Just about every match now there is a touchie and it's starting to get on my nerves. I play HA with my guildies too. In HA, the most elite PvP arena, there was a group of touchies. I know this has been brought up before, but touchies are getting out of hand. Does anyone want to enlighten me as how I, a monk, can stop a touchie? Also I think that people that play touchies are the people that haven't played the game for too long. Am I right on this? Why do people play touchie's? There are so many better builds out there. Why hasn't Anet lit it up with the nerf laser yet?
MSecorsky
MSecorsky
Furnace Stoker
#2
Try a paragon secondary and take the skill "Can't touch this". Seems worth a shot...
Saphatorael
Saphatorael
Wilds Pathfinder
#3
lol @ you calling HA the most elite PvP arena.

Also, I haven't seen touchies for 2 weeks in RA/TA/HA

Maybe you're just unlucky, but it's a build like any other... you say you know there's better builds out there... then why complain about them using an inferior one?

Oh, and on how to 'beat' them as a monk... kite or snare.. since you're playing a prot monk, just switch to ZB... you can easily outheal their life stealing, and even snare them using Return if you're using the Mo/A variant.


/lock, pwetty pwease?
You just got tomahawked
You just got tomahawked
Krytan Explorer
#4
Kiting does not always work because they kud have a sin on their team and they could cripple or shadow prison. i can counter the sin but then the touchie will catch up with me. Or the touchie could use a speed boost. And sorry my bad GvG is the most elite. still, What has caused the recen upsurge of touchies? and Why doesn't Anet nerf them?
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Grais
Frost Gate Guardian
#5
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Try a paragon secondary and take the skill "Can't touch this". Seems worth a shot...
lol.........
You just got tomahawked
You just got tomahawked
Krytan Explorer
#6
Can't touch this on a monk.................................. right...............
Fluffyx
Fluffyx
Krytan Explorer
#7
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Originally Posted by You just got tomahawked
Kiting does not always work because they kud have a sin on their team and they could cripple or shadow prison. i can counter the sin but then the touchie will catch up with me. Or the touchie could use a speed boost. And sorry my bad GvG is the most elite. still, What has caused the recen upsurge of touchies? and Why doesn't Anet nerf them?
So you're having trouble because you have to protect yourself from two people? I think this is more of a problem with your build then with the touch rangers build.
trobinson97
trobinson97
Wilds Pathfinder
#8
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Originally Posted by You just got tomahawked
Kiting does not always work because they kud have a sin on their team and they could cripple or shadow prison. i can counter the sin but then the touchie will catch up with me. Or the touchie could use a speed boost. And sorry my bad GvG is the most elite. still, What has caused the recen upsurge of touchies? and Why doesn't Anet nerf them?

The better question is why do you want Anet to nerf the buld. Is it because you keep getting beat by them? Honestly I haven't seen as many touchers lately as I used to, the popularity seems to be waning a bit in my eyes.


People go a little crazy with the nerf calls. Just nerf everything that works.
Diablo???
Diablo???
Forge Runner
#9
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Originally Posted by You just got tomahawked
... but touchies are getting out of hand.
I just want to point out this touchie pun here.

oops. Guess I made one too
Alleji
Alleji
Forge Runner
#10
Oh noes, there was a group of touchers in HA! Touchers are getting out of hand! Run for the hills!

*ahem*

As a prot monk, you can't do much except for playing in teams that don't suck. Yeah, I know this doesn't apply for RA, but everywhere else, this is a toucher's best friend:

[skill]Diversion[/skill]

In HA you can nuke them with massive AoE:

[skill]Sandstorm[/skill] [skill]Searing Flames[/skill] [skill]Spiritual Pain[/skill]

You can also kite touchers:

[skill]Ward Against Foes[/skill] [skill]Gale[/skill]

Or simply outheal them:

[skill]Mending[/skill]
You just got tomahawked
You just got tomahawked
Krytan Explorer
#11
no I can prot against 4 wars/sins/thumpers w/e u want the problem arises when Im snared and the touchie just unleashes on me. If A-net nerfs the spirit bonder then the touchie w/o a doubt needs to be nerfed.
Fluffyx
Fluffyx
Krytan Explorer
#12
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Originally Posted by You just got tomahawked
no I can prot against 4 wars/sins/thumpers w/e u want the problem arises when Im snared and the touchie just unleashes on me. If A-net nerfs the spirit bonder then the touchie w/o a doubt needs to be nerfed.
Your build can't go against everything? Welcome to guild wars. :]
JR
JR
Re:tired
#13
Kite lots, and then kill them because they suck?

Guild Wars is a team game. If your team is letting you get ripped apart by touchers then you need to look at why.
Alleji
Alleji
Forge Runner
#14
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Originally Posted by Fluffyx
Your build can't go against everything? Welcome to guild wars. :]
Unless you're playing a mesmer!
Faer
Faer
La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo
#15
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Originally Posted by You just got tomahawked
I play RA alot with my monk.
That's probably your first problem, right there.
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Originally Posted by You just got tomahawked
Does anyone want to enlighten me as how I, a monk, can stop a touchie?
[skill]Zealous Benediction[/skill]

I'm not a huge fan of the spell personally, but it's a decent one to have around if you are running into too much Toucher Trouble as a Protection Monk.
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Also I think that people that play touchies are the people that haven't played the game for too long. Am I right on this?
Some of the players who run the build (myself included, on occasion) do it for kicks and giggles. We could be doing something more constructive, but playing a toucher is just too fun to pass up sometimes. Really, who doesn't like to see opponents /ragequit before the match even gets good?
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Why do people play touchie's? There are so many better builds out there.
Because it's an easy build for new players, a humorous build for older players, and just all around "good" (even though it's bad, and no, I don't expect anyone to understand that logic) because people tend to crap themselves rather than learn to counter it.
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Originally Posted by You just got tomahawked
Why hasn't Anet lit it up with the nerf laser yet?
[skill]"Can't Touch This!"[/skill]

They did, but not many people seem to have noticed, which is understandable given the limited use of the skill.
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FoxBat
Furnace Stoker
#16
Protection from 3 or 4 touch attacks every 20 seconds for 10e isn't that impressive against rangers that can constantly spam them. Diversion, snares are much stronger counters, that's partly why the paragon skill never sees any use.
Bankai
Bankai
Desert Nomad
#17
Why hello there.

My name is Zealous Benediction, and I rape RA.
Mr_T_bot
Mr_T_bot
Banned
#18
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Originally Posted by MSecorsky
Try a paragon secondary and take the skill "Can't touch this". Seems worth a shot...
Pigeonholing ftl

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Because it's an easy build for new players, a humorous build for older players, and just all around "good" (even though it's bad, and no, I don't expect anyone to understand that logic) because people tend to crap themselves rather than learn to counter it.
Because touch skills are broken.
I Phoenix I
I Phoenix I
Jungle Guide
#19
Well, it's not that hard to bring [skill]"Can't Touch This!"[/skill] as a Monk, actually, as, if you can stand up to 4 Wars/Sins/Thumpers/other, surely it won't affect you that much with P as secondary...just stick like 6 or 7 in Command...
Kaida the Heartless
Kaida the Heartless
Desert Nomad
#20
We just need to figure out some way to get a toucher to work with necromancer primaries. Then, Anet is sure to nerf it, just like all other necro skills! >:]

Touchers are like wolves, they are usually only effective in packs. Instead of using all protection on your bar, try to use some healing spells as well. Hybrid monks can adapt to more situations. ZB was a good suggestion. Running an assassin secondary isnt a bad idea either!