I need a scythe comparison

I'm thinking of basically welding both. Right now I have a banana scythe that i switch to so the degen won't murder me. I'm thinking of replacing that scythe with the deathbringer.
I do the same thing with my ranger who has a vamp bow - I use a CC bow with them. (something to equip just while running or something.)
But I'd rather just use one of them primarily.

Neither, the -10 armor while attacking isn't nice on a Dervish who already has a base 70 AL.

and if you HAD to have -10 al while attacking then vamp romps sunder... hands down..

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well, when you know that vamp > sundering, the decision isnt that hard to make...

as for the -10 when attacking, ive never liked it much. sure you can add the +10 insignia, but you are at a net of 0 bonus armor. why not go 15% when enchanted or above 50 or in a stance with the +10 insignia. more armor the better, and you can easily meet the above conditions 100% of the time as well
(mystic vigor as you said, or conviction for stance). why gimp yourself when there is no need to?

I confused mystic vigor with that other spell that adds like +84 to my health. I keep forgetting it's name.

LEt's all add the fact that I just cap'd balthazar elite, which gives +40 armor for a full minute. Making it +30 while attacking. Still not bad.
I'm just saying that -10 isn't that serious in the long run.

i agree to a point. 10 armor isnt going to make or break you. but why not have it if you can?

blessed/brawler insignia + baltz + 15% dmg, -10 while attacking = 40 bonus armor, 15% dmg increase.
blessed/brawler insignia + baltz + 15% dmg if enchanted/in a stance = 50 bonus armor, 15% dmg increase.

seems like a waste to use -10 while attacking when you have a plethora of enchants and stances that last longer than their duration. and the skill you are talking about is vital boon. lasts 20 seconds with an 8 second recharge. still able to be kept up non stop.

but i take it this is for pve, so you can really run whatever you want. it will work and you will be fine. just dont know why you would gimp yourself on purpose.

I hate +15% dmg/-10 armor while attacking insignia. With this insignia you are sacrafising your armor (and you are supposedly a melee character).

Much better with either +15% dmg/when health>50% or +15% dmg/when enchanted insignias, you are not sacrafising anything with them.

as noodle said consider a 15^50 inscription. they are pretty cheap. i have one on my mule right now(i think) that i would let go for like 7kish.

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I normally just use the deathbringer while running around so the degen won't murder me (monks can only do so much.)
I'll probably go get one of those insignias.

Umm.. Dervish's inscription = 15/enchant (duh).
And Sundering is worth it for once due to AOE spammage on a melee character. Vamp is just as good.. (we are NOT getting in Vamp vs. Sundering argument again).
As for -10 armor, if your dervish is screwed over by the -10 armor, then you probably won't last long without the penalty anyway. Mystic Regen...
Deathbringer isn't THAT bad, but it looks damn ugly.
And 15>50 is only worth about 3~5k.

If your worried about the -10 armor or vamp, then get a hand of the forgotten. its 15^50, 20/20, and health +30

Vampiric >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sundering

Done.

Quote: I confused mystic vigor with that other spell that adds like +84 to my health. I keep forgetting it's name.
Vital Boon

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Dwayna%27s_Grace

Or make a vampiric/15^enchanted/enchanting (or fortitude if you must).

Don't use 15%/-10, it's passable on a ranger but not on a dervish.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Muk Utep

+20% duration to your enchantments is usually much better than +30hp, unless you run a build that doesn't keep enchantments up.

Vampiric is better than sundering for just about any purpose related to dealing extra damage. The health degeneration can be ignored in combat, and when you're not in combat, simply swap to another weapon so you don't lose hp.

Seriously, the best scythe you can have for pretty much any conventional dervish build is vampiric/15^enchanted/+20% enchantments, unless you want zealous or earth damage.

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