State of the Game - Jan 3, 2007
Few highlights:
- Ladder overhaul (anti smurf?)
- Last ladder reset
- Qualifying points?
State of the Game - Jan 3, 2007
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lol means absolutely nothing. PvP is dead as far as I'm concerned. even the die hard people that played it in the beginning and nothing else have moved on to the PvE portion of the game because THAT is where the population is. The people that play PvP now are in it for a reason of their own, and more power to them. If that's all they want, then there is a cheap version of the game just for them. but I'm sure no one can argue that the PvP only web sales of GW campaigns are not that big a sellers because without the full and lucrative storylines of PvE in all the chapters its hardly worth it to be bothered...
Most guild will just say, so what. they want more people to play in ladders. big deal... Its not going to effect people participating in other things. and it will very likly not encourage people to change the way they play. Not much will at this point. So if Anet feels they want to do this just for tinker sake, they should just say so, but doing it do "improve the PvP meta game" is not really much of nothing to player that couldn't care less for PvP anyway.
We keep a guild hall for our own private town. that's it. That's all its good for in my opinion. The fact that we can do Minor little nothing skirmishes is all the more bonus. But as far as GvG or PvP goes, Its a waste of time.
And as for the competitive competitions that take you to out of the way countries, well no one could pay me enough money to go to one of those things outside of the US. so as far as I am concerned, You have fun at those. I would sooner be disemboweled.
Most guild will just say, so what. they want more people to play in ladders. big deal... Its not going to effect people participating in other things. and it will very likly not encourage people to change the way they play. Not much will at this point. So if Anet feels they want to do this just for tinker sake, they should just say so, but doing it do "improve the PvP meta game" is not really much of nothing to player that couldn't care less for PvP anyway.
We keep a guild hall for our own private town. that's it. That's all its good for in my opinion. The fact that we can do Minor little nothing skirmishes is all the more bonus. But as far as GvG or PvP goes, Its a waste of time.
And as for the competitive competitions that take you to out of the way countries, well no one could pay me enough money to go to one of those things outside of the US. so as far as I am concerned, You have fun at those. I would sooner be disemboweled.
Sorry I really don't mean to be cyinical... Its just I get frustrated when I see a thing like this that is only going to stir up the players that are left in PvP and make them mad. And in the end that is why I stopped playing that part of the game. if one little thing happens to it they get so upset... So when the whole skill rebalence happens in a few days, and the new ranking system is implamented. All these tiger and dragon flashers are going to go crazy over the changes. and that I am not looking forward too.
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lol means absolutely nothing. PvP is dead as far as I'm concerned. even the die hard people that played it in the beginning and nothing else have moved on to the PvE portion of the game because THAT is where the population is. The people that play PvP now are in it for a reason of their own, and more power to them. If that's all they want, then there is a cheap version of the game just for them. but I'm sure no one can argue that the PvP only web sales of GW campaigns are not that big a sellers because without the full and lucrative storylines of PvE in all the chapters its hardly worth it to be bothered...
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The only PvP for me that's fun it GvG, Alliance battles and those battles like in PvE Luxon against Kurzicks, further I hate RA, TA and all another arena's.
The reason? TA team are made out of spikers, touchers or anything that kills you in less then a few seconds, to me not that much fun and yes maybe I can defeat them, but what happens next? team of energy or health degen? People who play there with no live in teams they never change are owning these Arena's, I don't mean PWN but basicly it's started to be there property, and startes are doomed to lose 4ever unless you don't have a life.
RA, leavers leavers and dumbasses, that's all I can say.
HA, retards that don't accept you unless you got a maxed out Arena title or they know you.
I think Anet should start a Poll to actually see how people think about the PvP. Personally I want to spend more time in PvE then PvP, just because it's ways more fun.
The reason? TA team are made out of spikers, touchers or anything that kills you in less then a few seconds, to me not that much fun and yes maybe I can defeat them, but what happens next? team of energy or health degen? People who play there with no live in teams they never change are owning these Arena's, I don't mean PWN but basicly it's started to be there property, and startes are doomed to lose 4ever unless you don't have a life.
RA, leavers leavers and dumbasses, that's all I can say.
HA, retards that don't accept you unless you got a maxed out Arena title or they know you.
I think Anet should start a Poll to actually see how people think about the PvP. Personally I want to spend more time in PvE then PvP, just because it's ways more fun.
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Originally Posted by Iscana
The only PvP for me that's fun it GvG, Alliance battles and those battles like in PvE Luxon against Kurzicks, further I hate RA, TA and all another arena's.
The reason? TA team are made out of spikers, touchers or anything that kills you in less then a few seconds, to me not that much fun and yes maybe I can defeat them, but what happens next? team of energy or health degen? People who play there with no live in teams they never change are owning these Arena's, I don't mean PWN but basicly it's started to be there property, and startes are doomed to lose 4ever unless you don't have a life. RA, leavers leavers and dumbasses, that's all I can say. HA, retards that don't accept you unless you got a maxed out Arena title or they know you. I think Anet should start a Poll to actually see how people think about the PvP. Personally I want to spend more time in PvE then PvP, just because it's ways more fun. |
I base that info on the results of HoH announcements and posted ladders. Personally the only PvP I enjoyed was Alliance battles and team arenas, But I did play quite a bit of HoH when it was in the tombs. Since battle isle not much at all as most of the people I knew that had tigers at that time moved on to other things and I just didn't like the way the game and quality of players went.
The only thing that would attract me to PvP again would be if the so called Fame degenerated as Alliance faction points did. Meaning you loose a match you loose fame. You win a match you gain fame. Thus no more Grinding cookie cutter builds from the Orientals. If you suck it shows... Fame earned is twice as sweet. Fame maintained is even better.
Now to answer your question... No I do not play much PvP at all anymore, but based on the group wining halls recently, its proof that not many of the elite PvP groups are in game anymore. If some of the poser countries can steal the halls from the CCB (Cookie Cutter Build) poser guilds with such ease, and on request.
And team arenas, well just look who's in them... Give me a break.
Alliance battles was good for a while, Even better when it became 48 vs 48 for that oh so sweet period of time at release of Nightfall. However even I said that had to go cause it was not fair to those that owned Factions only to have such dominate team sizes that they could not make themselves. Fair is fair. But it sure was fun with a 48 vs 48 area like that.
I think the PvP I appreciate the most is the Fort Aspenwood and the Jade Quarry (IF IT WAS EVER PLAYED!) I enjoy the Nightfall Hero battle arena as well, but not really all that much... I still prefer my Alliance Pugs for doing DoA and Other fun missions, Heck even a prophecies mission or two here or there if we have a few allies in need of a group back there for something. I enjoy that by far more then the type of cookie cutter only builds that go on in PvP now days... The Golden months of PvP was easily the Early Tombs HoH days. Sorry, thats just the way I see it... I'm not knocking you guys, if you like it its all yours my friend. I'm just saying don't expect a rush of competition to join you anytime soon, that is not already there. Cause we are done with that part of the game as it is today.
The only thing that would attract me to PvP again would be if the so called Fame degenerated as Alliance faction points did. Meaning you loose a match you loose fame. You win a match you gain fame. Thus no more Grinding cookie cutter builds from the Orientals. If you suck it shows... Fame earned is twice as sweet. Fame maintained is even better.
Now to answer your question... No I do not play much PvP at all anymore, but based on the group wining halls recently, its proof that not many of the elite PvP groups are in game anymore. If some of the poser countries can steal the halls from the CCB (Cookie Cutter Build) poser guilds with such ease, and on request.
And team arenas, well just look who's in them... Give me a break.
Alliance battles was good for a while, Even better when it became 48 vs 48 for that oh so sweet period of time at release of Nightfall. However even I said that had to go cause it was not fair to those that owned Factions only to have such dominate team sizes that they could not make themselves. Fair is fair. But it sure was fun with a 48 vs 48 area like that.
I think the PvP I appreciate the most is the Fort Aspenwood and the Jade Quarry (IF IT WAS EVER PLAYED!) I enjoy the Nightfall Hero battle arena as well, but not really all that much... I still prefer my Alliance Pugs for doing DoA and Other fun missions, Heck even a prophecies mission or two here or there if we have a few allies in need of a group back there for something. I enjoy that by far more then the type of cookie cutter only builds that go on in PvP now days... The Golden months of PvP was easily the Early Tombs HoH days. Sorry, thats just the way I see it... I'm not knocking you guys, if you like it its all yours my friend. I'm just saying don't expect a rush of competition to join you anytime soon, that is not already there. Cause we are done with that part of the game as it is today.
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Originally Posted by Iscana
The reason? TA team are made out of spikers, touchers or anything that kills you in less then a few seconds, to me not that much fun and yes maybe I can defeat them, but what happens next? team of energy or health degen? People who play there with no live in teams they never change are owning these Arena's, I don't mean PWN but basicly it's started to be there property, and startes are doomed to lose 4ever unless you don't have a life.
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Also, orientals don't make fame/rating farming builds. All pvp-farming builds are made and played by europe/america.
Also, since when do you use alliance points if you lose a battle?
Sorry, but your points are all crap/not true/make no sense.
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www.guildwiki.org -> read new players guide.
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Allience battles was never true PvP, reason => Random teams.
The same way RA, and HB isn't either FYI.
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I haven't seen a toucher in RA/TA for a long time, your statement is wrong. (yes i play quite a bit RA and occationally(and after 10 wins) get to TA.
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You do know that most people are stupid right?
So when playing with you Guild and you find out that you're missing one
player, what do you do? - Get a PUG guy.
And how do we know, that he knows how to play?(see first point).
Usually, people who played before, has a generel idea how to play. (Mark the word, usually - not always.)
We need a system to check if the player who is about to join our team, has an idea about how to play. - Viola! Rank system.
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Allience battles was never true PvP, reason => Random teams.
The same way RA, and HB isn't either FYI.
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I haven't seen a toucher in RA/TA for a long time, your statement is wrong. (yes i play quite a bit RA and occationally(and after 10 wins) get to TA.
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You do know that most people are stupid right?
So when playing with you Guild and you find out that you're missing one
player, what do you do? - Get a PUG guy.
And how do we know, that he knows how to play?(see first point).
Usually, people who played before, has a generel idea how to play. (Mark the word, usually - not always.)
We need a system to check if the player who is about to join our team, has an idea about how to play. - Viola! Rank system.
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