HP mods are overrated.

because it speeds things up? i don't see how that makes someone a noob +Energy will only sustain you in battle for...a tiny bit longer, and if you have energy management, you won't need the +Energy, and a +AL/+HP mod would be better.

Assuming you're commenting on the +Energy phrase.

If that +30-60HP is saving your party from a wipe, your party blew it. And blew really bad. If the party is saved by the extra HP, then by definition, they've not failed. IOW, they haven't blown it. OK, so they might have been more efficient, but survival is survival, no matter how it happens.

so they can boost themselves with superior runes without ending at 105 health >.> rofl :|

dunno why, suppose people just dont use their brain and like the "30" better than a "5" or "7" because its higher? i dunno;

you can ask yourself the same question, just with Energy/Armor, why do people wear full energy armor? why not + armor? same reason, most of them are just noobs. :P that isnt exactly the right comparison. the + ene armor is super useful on almost all classes. i woudl take ene armor over phys any day for most casters. Another spell cast or +10 extra armor, ill take the last cast.

that isnt exactly the right comparison. the + ene armor is super useful on almost all classes. i woudl take ene armor over phys any day for most casters. Another spell cast or +10 extra armor, ill take the last cast. So would you take and stick to 15/-1 weapons for that extra cast?

+HP and +AL both have their place in battle. When faced with degen or armor ignoring damage, I want HP on my armor/weapon. When faced with something my amor can handle, I want more AL. This is why some of us have more than one set of armor. As for the bashing for +energy mods? I find those useful. I mean, for my dervish, if I wanted to be in an avatar mode that costs 25e (which is my entire energy bar if I don't have +energy mods), I want some energy on my side so that I can dish out skills. I should include in my post that it excludes some cases such as Dervishes, Warriors.

Although +10 Phys is very useful on a 70 AL...

Can someone please explain to me how HP mod helps you in any way in pve? From where I stand 30 extra HP doesn't make a squat of difference unless you are facing a spike, which you likely aren't in pve. When your healers run out of energy is when you're gonna die in pve and 30 HP isn't gonna matter at that point. Generalizations will, more often times than not, get you in trouble.

In your post, you simply assume that you have healers in your party that will simply not let you get to the point where your 30 extra health is meaningful.

Some flaws in this thinking:

1. Some players are unable to team up with either (a) enough healers or (b) competent healers. I personally would rather have that extra little health buffer when I'm playing with hero or henchmen monks, or the occasional scary PvE PuG. Just think Forrest Gump...

2. People die in PvE. I am a testament to that. That doesn't mean that your healers are terrible - it means that they are limited in what they can do. Sometimes that extra 30 health gives them that 1-2 seconds needed to save your butt from death.

3. Some players prefer to play in less than maximum-sized groups, including soloing areas and 2-3 man teams. In many of those instances, that extra health assists you in staying alive longer when facing the four damage types that are described above.

I personally believe that defense mods and fortitude mods have very similar utility, for different reasons. If you're disciplined enough to carry both and can timely weapon switch, the best course is to use an armor mod for the majority of the battle and switch when your health gets low.

Personally, I'm simply too lazy (and too inventory challenged) to carry both an armor and a fortitude mod, and I'd rather have the mod that provides me the most utility in all situations in fortitude.

But then again, as I've said many times (and Ensign alludes to above), it's simply preference.

The biggest reason, I think, is that at high armour levels, +5 armour makes very little difference. Only because armor-ignoring damage becomes disproportionately dangerous to your character. You don't need more armor against damage that's already being heavily nullified, but more resistance to armor ignoring damage, in the form of health, is still valuable. If all damage is affected by armor, the value of additional armor does not vary with how much armor you have.

I don't think the difference is trivial at all BTW. It's a whole lot more clear in smaller scale combat, ala solo farming. There the armor is so much more valuable than the health and it smacks you in the face. You're in so much more control of the damage and healing and the difference between reduction and a bigger capacity is huge. Ditching the health parts for another 15-20 armor is a day and night difference, particularly on a caster. Forget health, give me armor.

Peace,
-CxE

+Energy will only sustain you in battle for...a tiny bit longer, and if you have energy management, you won't need the +Energy, and a +AL/+HP mod would be better.

Assuming you're commenting on the +Energy phrase. yes because warrior always have energy managment