Gayala Hatchery:Big trouble.

My problem is rather major realy..i cant find any groups since either

A:There completely incompetent and fail miserably.

B:The group decided to use the "exploit" as i call it where they go around the turtles and kill the Kurzichs,this always fails,even when everyone dous it right,the turtles move,as such,this method is instant-death,but most groups cannot be convinced that the trick dous not work and they do it anyway,most everyone dous this and it severely limits the amount of groups that even survive the first wave.

C:The place is empty!I often find this place completely empty,with not enough people to even fill a group with,let alone a competent one.

I want to discuss a few things.

1:Has sompthing been done to remove the exploit?The turtles move now they didnt before.

2:Even one of the most capable groups ive seen failed,is this mission to hard for the average Guild Wars player?

3:Any advice on how i as a person can do this?I realy like luxon so rolling kurzich would just suck the fun out of this character.

Try using a full team of henchies and then use the exploit.

At least see if it works, and make sure that you hug the wall like you are exploring so there is no chance that you will accidently trigger the turtles.

If they still come, then it has definitely been fixed.

If they don't, complete the mission using the Henchies.

I beat the game using full henchies on every mission. So it is very do-able.

Livingston

Edit: Just checked it myself. The exploit is still there. Perhaps the people in your group are not leaving the area quick enough. If anybody gets too close to the turtle group or everyone hasn't left the area far behind by the time that Argo says "move out" then they will begin their trek.

lol livingstone what kind of crazy spot are you farming there

The exploit works....every time, if done right. Most PUGs don't know what to do with the single fight at the turtles and ruin any chance at masters by royally screwing it up.

ONE canister and all characters in the middle with baby turtles, monks only concentrate on healing baby turtles = masters every time.

worked last night.....but like Livingston said---you gotta move out before they shout to ----or it wont work. (this might also be bad for people on dial up as they tend to load more slowly---and you must be out of the area pretty quickly).

The trick kinda works. u can kill everything on the path except 1 mob i think.

The problem is that when u approach the turtles from the other side, they'll start walking and all mobs in that initial area SPAWN AT ONCE and unless u have pretty good monks whty'll kill a few turtles.

This also happens on all other spawns, by approaching them from the wrong side they spawn all at once, which means u'll get a lot BIG fights.

A good group should be able to do this but at the end i'd recommend going back and going with the turtles the right way if u want masters.


Also there seems to be another bug:
If a turtle die along the way, they'll rez after the movie sequence but will try to move to the spot where they died. This means u can get masters even if the turtles die in the initial part but u'll have to heal them ALOT while they try to get past that way full of afflicted

Can someone explain to me how this exploit works? I need masters on this mission and it would be great if I could do it with hench.

It's really simple, and can be done with henchmen. However there is one part where the turtles are in danger, and it helps to have a real monk in your team or you can fail master reward. (the hench healers just can't dish out enough healing if a turtle is in trouble)

What you do is immediately when you load, run in a straight line sticking to the right wall, until the dialog no longer has a face in it. If you do that then the turtles will stay where they are.

Now you go to the end of the mission, and have to kill all the groups of Kurzicks, working your way back towards the turtles.

When you get back to the turtles, there will be a spawn of Juggernauts and Kurzicks to deal with, and this is the dangerous part. Put at least 2 bomb targets on the baby turtles because they typically go straight for them. The Siege Turtles will bomb the turtles (without hurting them), but the Kurzicks will get killed.

immediately when you enter the mission, you hug the wall on the right past the turtles. The turtles will stay there, monsters won't spawn and you have all the time to explore and kill mobs.

Hmm okay, so the only mob you need to fight then is the first one? Then you just walk to the cutscene?

Quote: Originally Posted by Carth`

it takes to long with the exploit! just due it normal style with the following:

1.mm with wells
2.warrior running build
3.henchies

Hit me up ill do it for you after 600pm pst.

The both times I henched the mission for master's, I remember that the turtles would start moving for a bit (and some silly Luxon would talk for a bit). If you ignore them, the Kurzicks will not spawn and they will halt.

And henchmen monks are terrific at healing the turtles...plant a smoke canister at the young turtles too, it will destroy anybody trying to get their hands on them.

to answer part C
find a good guild if your not in one, or if you are, guild groups ftw

The exploit is fun

Apparently, the kurzicks only come once the human players have activated them, not the NPCs

Quote: Originally Posted by Rathcail

I henched with exploit on all my characters except my monk for masters, so I can tell you that it DOES work I think everyone has covered it, move out quickly and HUG THE WALL!

Quote: Originally Posted by Carth`

You aren't there so the leader of the squad decides to wait for you to return before heading out, not really an exploit.

I helped a friend do the mission a few days ago. We puged at the start, which ended badly. Then took a smaller group and henchies. Worked fine. Really depends on what time of the day you try to get a team too.

Quote: Originally Posted by Superdarth