Wounding Strike

it isint that good since if you use it, you wont be able to use any of the avatar. Avatar's aren't even very good. They appear good on paper, but in my experience they are actually quite crappy. An intelligent warrior can beat any Dervish with Avatar of Balthazar. It doesn't actually make you deal holy damage, it makes you deal light damage. Holy ignores armor and Av or balth definately does not ignore armor. And +40 armor doesn't actually do that much. Armor is only affected by the base weapon swing, and not attack skills. So let's say I hit for 20+42. You could have 10,000,000 armor, im still going to hit for that +42 guaranteed.

If I recall, Wounding Strike has a very fast recharge too. If it deep wounds aoe, then it is a super elite. If you follow it up with Lyssa's Assault, then you've just accomplished a large amount of damage, to up to 3 targets at a very low energy cost. Not to mention that the Scythe has the hifhest damage in the game. When you score a critical, you automatically deal the highest possible damage (28 for axe, 22 for sword, 35 for hammer, etc, hence why axes are usually better than swords, because they have a much higher critical damage) Now imagine the Scythe, I don't remember the max damage but it was around 46 or 47 or something. That's considerably higher than hammers, and we know how crazy those are in pvp.

It does apply DW to everyone you hit. All scythe attack do their effect to everyone hit.

I still think it's ridiculously bad when you consider that Wearying Strike exists, that it's 5/2 and deals +damage AND deepwound every time (no enchanted condition). It does Weakness on you, but there is plenty of ways to remove that (Plague Touch it to your target to cover your DW, or Sig of Malice... you just DW him, he'll have a condition, and Sig of Malice is .25/5 and no energy!). Imo Wearying Strike just wins in every way... mostly the 'not being an elite' way. Yeah, sure it's not an elite. So you don't have to sacrifice your elite for Wounding Strike, but you have to sacrifice your secondary to get rid of the weakness, which IMO is a lot worse given the circumstances. I for one definately do not want to give up my secondary to be a necro backside. Who would? Ew.

Otyugh's Cry doesn't deserve the Elite tag but it still has it... Since when was that an elite?

I wanted to use Desperation Blow (as a D/W) with a Scythe to see if I could throw Conditions on everything I hit. Doesn't work, it only affects your target. I think you're mistaken Rancour. I tested desperation blow during the pve preview event and one attack was causing a random condition on each target hit.

And +40 armor doesn't actually do that much. Actually if i recall Ensign's idea's about combat mechanics correctly i think it is up to a 50% reduction in damage that takes armour into account. That's still alot of damage you are negating...

And as for Otyugh's Cry, it's definetely not Elite... and IMO it's a pretty bad skill as is, if it was Elite it would be a joke

Wrong again. Only skill based holy damage ignores armor. Normal attacks of holy type don't. this is not 100% true. they may have buggered up the skila bit, but lightbringers gaze actually does reduced dmg to target with more than the standard 60 AL. i realize its a pve skill, but none the less, the descrip does say 100 holy damage.

it isint that good since if you use it, you wont be able to use any of the avatar.
yeah what i said would have be off topic if this hadn't been posted.