Auction house with Nightfall

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Blackest Rose
Lion's Arch Merchant
#1
Pure speculation but will Nightfall finally give us an auction house?

I'm wondering if that will be one of the selling points of Nightfall.

Materials storage for Cantha (Factions), Custom hench parties for Nightfall - please oh please don't say that the auction house (or whatever trade improvements will be made) won't be there again!

With all these rares/double drop weekends - the market is becoming saturated with people selling stuff and no good in game system of doing it.

I'm currently not enjoying my double rate drops due to all my characters being completely weighted down with gold drops..... just don't want to spam WTS for hours.....
majoho
majoho
Forge Runner
#2
Who knows, why bother speculating when no one can tell.
EternalTempest
EternalTempest
Furnace Stoker
#4
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Originally Posted by -Loki-
They will announce that the Auction House will be available shortly after Nightfall. Then, like how James Phinney said Guild Storage would be available shortly after Factions, they will conveniently forget about it and hope everyone else did as well and be happy it got a few more units sold.
Actually I think that they will be working like mad to get everything done / rdy for Nightfall launch then get to the Trade/Auction House in the middle between Nightfall and Chapter 4. But with the changes on how material storage was implemented... expect to only see the Trade/Auction House(s) in Nightfall and future expansions.
Blind Rage
Blind Rage
Krytan Explorer
#5
yes... i am pissed at arena net for forgetting guild storage... they promised!
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Loviatar
Underworld Spelunker
#6
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Originally Posted by Blind Rage
yes... i am pissed at arena net for forgetting guild storage... they promised!
they never said when they simply said as we can do it so calm down and change your panties.

also it may turn out to be much harder to do than they thought.
Vahn Roi
Vahn Roi
Forge Runner
#7
"W TS SUNDERING REQ 8 FELLBLADE - CHECK AUCTION HOUSE!"

I don't see an auction house fixing the spam problem at all.
EternalTempest
EternalTempest
Furnace Stoker
#8
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Originally Posted by Vahn Roi
"W TS SUNDERING REQ 8 FELLBLADE - CHECK AUCTION HOUSE!"

I don't see an auction house fixing the spam problem at all.
Depends on how it's implemented. If it's along the lines of FFXI auction house. A) Put item up (+ small fee)
B) Go play or log off
C) See if money or item gets returned shows back up at mog house

Then I disagree. If you can't see or choose *which* item you buy. Now I can see Selling X item X less then Auction house. But an auction house will stablize prized and allow non player traders to easily know value of items and less chances of scamming / overpaying.
Vahn Roi
Vahn Roi
Forge Runner
#9
I was speaking in reference to the sellers and their spam. Right now they spam local chat with "W TS FELLBLADE!!!" With an auction house they will spam local with "W TS FELLBLADE - CHECK AUCTION HOUSE!!!!"

If they added a no tolerance policy in regards to local chat spamming along with the auction house, then yes, I could see it working, otherwise I fail to see how it will help at all.
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pfred
Pre-Searing Cadet
#10
They could always disable the ability to trade in towns and outposts and save it for the trading house. In that case all releases would obviously need access to it (sort of like Guild Halls or Balthazar island). Of course the ability to trade during in game missions is a must specially for elite missions where items such as candy canes and keys are commonly traded.

I personaly agree with tempest idea of "putting something up and letting the work get done while going about some other buisiness". Ebay works on that principle and it's great. Put it up, it sells, collect the cash. The item could even be delivered from your storage to the storage of the buyer's account and customized items could be rejected to prevent scams. Just imagine put up your Kanaxai edge, come back the next day. There's your 150k or 100k + x ectos!!

I wouldn't mind seeing a storage expantion, especially given the fact that I collect monks armors and warrior weapons. Right now I use my extra characters space to store items.
Alias_X
Alias_X
Desert Nomad
#11
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Originally Posted by majoho
Who knows, why bother speculating when no one can tell.
You shouldn't be viewing the Nightfall forum if you can't handle speculation.




Guild storage seems like such a small request with the guy in our guild who sells addons, but I realize Anet pumps these games out every 6 months so they are always going to be busy.

Auction house would definitely sell some copies of Nightfall.
bamm bamm bamm
bamm bamm bamm
Krytan Explorer
#12
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Originally Posted by Vahn Roi
I was speaking in reference to the sellers and their spam. Right now they spam local chat with "W TS FELLBLADE!!!" With an auction house they will spam local with "W TS FELLBLADE - CHECK AUCTION HOUSE!!!!"

If they added a no tolerance policy in regards to local chat spamming along with the auction house, then yes, I could see it working, otherwise I fail to see how it will help at all.
I made a fairly detailed suggestion to combat this awhile back using the Bayesian email spam filtering technique mixed with player moderation, but it seems to have disappeared of the face of the earth. I don't know how plausible it would have been, but it was an idea nonetheless. I agree with you that an auction house would not stop the spam.
ubermancer
ubermancer
Jungle Guide
#13
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Originally Posted by bamm bamm bamm
I made a fairly detailed suggestion to combat this awhile back using the Bayesian email spam filtering technique mixed with player moderation, but it seems to have disappeared of the face of the earth. I don't know how plausible it would have been, but it was an idea nonetheless. I agree with you that an auction house would not stop the spam.
Would you be trying to filter out text or specific accounts? It sounds like text, which would likely be unfeasible... theyd have to add another server just for it!
bamm bamm bamm
bamm bamm bamm
Krytan Explorer
#14
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Originally Posted by ubermancer
Would you be trying to filter out text or specific accounts? It sounds like text, which would likely be unfeasible... theyd have to add another server just for it!
It was just users flagging sentences as spam and the servers statistically working out spam words or phrases and generating a list for a member of staff to review and add to the trade filter as needed. Kind of like how wts and wtb have been added to the trade filter and now people have had to find an alternative if they want to sell in local chat. Imagine if their alternative worked for like a day and then they had to come up with increasingly illegible phrases to sell something. I can't remember the details, I came up with a way to stop abuse (like flagging lfg as spam) but I can't really remember it now. But yeah, if one thing was going to make this impossible I think it would be server load. If not server load then the need for human intervention (else I imagine it would be far too easy to abuse).

I should say that this technically isn't quite bayesian filtering as it doesn't compare to standard chat and suggest phrases as spam, which I think would just about kill the servers to death. This job would be mitigated to the players.
ubermancer
ubermancer
Jungle Guide
#15
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Originally Posted by bamm bamm bamm
It was just users flagging sentences as spam and the servers statistically working out spam words or phrases and generating a list for a member of staff to review and add to the trade filter as needed. Kind of like how wts and wtb have been added to the trade filter and now people have had to find an alternative if they want to sell in local chat. Imagine if their alternative worked for like a day and then they had to come up with increasingly illegible phrases to sell something. I can't remember the details, I came up with a way to stop abuse (like flagging lfg as spam) but I can't really remember it now. But yeah, if one thing was going to make this impossible I think it would be server load. If not server load then the need for human intervention (else I imagine it would be far too easy to abuse).

I should say that this technically isn't quite bayesian filtering as it doesn't compare to standard chat and suggest phrases as spam, which I think would just about kill the servers to death. This job would be mitigated to the players.
Impossible to impliment server side. Maybe in client clusters?
Voltar
Voltar
Krytan Explorer
#16
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Originally Posted by Vahn Roi
If they added a no tolerance policy in regards to local chat spamming along with the auction house, then yes, I could see it working, otherwise I fail to see how it will help at all.
I think it's intended to help people sell items more easily and not a method to coddle kids that don't know how to turn their trade chat off.
Mtank325
Mtank325
Lion's Arch Merchant
#17
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Originally Posted by Loviatar
they never said when they simply said as we can do it so calm down and change your panties.

also it may turn out to be much harder to do than they thought.
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Originally Posted by James Phinney, GW Designer
Among the most anticipated, I'm sure, will be a vault keeper who maintains storage space for the whole guild. This is an entirely new feature that we're adding soon after the release of Factions.
I'm not as much annoyed by this, but it is kind of disappointing to still not see it happen as of yet and have to possibly purchase it in Nightfall opposed to have seen it in Factions.
TheMosesPHD
TheMosesPHD
Jungle Guide
#18
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Originally Posted by Blind Rage
yes... i am pissed at arena net for forgetting guild storage... they promised!
Technically they did give us "guild storage" since we can now have a storage agent in our guild hall :/. Ya I know, but I'm serious, they cheesed us all by pretending to misinterpret our requests. Cheesers!
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Energizer Deth Buni
Banned
#19
Im willing to Gamble no Auction House, sorry but Anet has never been interested in helping anyone buy or sell products. Auction house would just produce more farmers and more Ebay gold sellers. Are you going to have a mailbox too? You have to pick up items somewhere. I think the AH is too much programming for such a short time. Crap they cant even get guild storage out on time?
-Loki-
-Loki-
Forge Runner
#20
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Originally Posted by TheMosesPHD
Technically they did give us "guild storage" since we can now have a storage agent in our guild hall :/. Ya I know, but I'm serious, they cheesed us all by pretending to misinterpret our requests. Cheesers!
No, they didn't. They already mentioned Guild NPCs. James Phinney was talking about a new NPC, the 'Vault Keeper, who managed the storage space for the whole guild'. What we have now is a Xunlai Agent, who managed the storage for individual characters. That's not misinterpreting. That's just another 'oops, it's coming later than we thought (but really really late)' thing.