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Arcane Theivery/Larceny mechanics

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LouAl
Wilds Pathfinder
• #1
Are Acane Thievery/Larceny restriced to non-elite spells? Example: If a monster only has 2 spells (1 elite, 1 non-elite) will I only get the non-elite every time, or is it possible to get the elite spell?

If no one knows this I will try and do some testing on a monster with very few spells to try and find out...it sure would be nice if you could get elites with it.
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Morganas
Wilds Pathfinder
• #2
you can get elites on it. You can also get repeats if you use both larceny and thievery or echo, so there are possibly diminishing returns the more you put it on a target
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NinjaKai
Forge Runner
• #3
If you use the right skills on an enemy with 5 skills which tends to be the max for most mods and boss monsters. You can essentially shut down all of their skills.
Cebe
Cebe
The 5th Celestial Boss
• #4
Hee hee - I used Arcane Larceny in the Fort Aspenwood mission against a Necromancer...I stole Flesh Golem - imagine my joy! It was only lvl 4 but who cares! Stealing elite skills is just funny!
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Vermilion Okeanos
Forge Runner
• #5
It has been awhile since I use any of these 2 skills.

However, if it still work the same way...

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=31581
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Ss Executioner
Frost Gate Guardian
• #6
I've loved Thievery... ever since back in the day, when IWAY run tainted. I was a Mes/N with corpse control so I had some attributes in death and stole tainted and cast it around on people.


Very fun skill in my opinion. I keep wanting to run it in GvG, and my guildies always think I'm joking.

Imagine taking somebodys boon and shattering right afterwards... they'd be screwed for 27 seconds or whatever it is.


-Sam
Mera Regila
Mera Regila
Krytan Explorer
• #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
Hee hee - I used Arcane Larceny in the Fort Aspenwood mission against a Necromancer...I stole Flesh Golem - imagine my joy! It was only lvl 4 but who cares! Stealing elite skills is just funny! Indeed it is, imagine his face when he saw you using his elite, and it turned out to be a flesh golem that's at least level, what is the minimum, around 10-15 flesh golem to fight with you at aspwenwood! AND with EoE, his minions would suffer for yours dying!
Mera Regila
Mera Regila
Krytan Explorer
• #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Ss Executioner
I've loved Thievery... ever since back in the day, when IWAY run tainted. I was a Mes/N with corpse control so I had some attributes in death and stole tainted and cast it around on people.


Very fun skill in my opinion. I keep wanting to run it in GvG, and my guildies always think I'm joking.

Imagine taking somebodys boon and shattering right afterwards... they'd be screwed for 27 seconds or whatever it is.


-Sam WOW! I never thought of that boonprot idea, it's that, or you get one of their prot enchants and disable it, meaning they can no longer spam. Even removing Guardian would give an opening for your warriors. Best case scenario would be you stealing his energy management elite XD, then he would be totally screwed.
The Chimpster
The Chimpster
Frost Gate Guardian
• #9
Yep, now take both theivery skills (factions and prophices one), then take echo and arcane echo. Steal upto 4 spells anyone?
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Anryla
Frost Gate Guardian
• #10
The tradeoff is that you might steal the SAME spell four times, a bit of gambling

Edit: I just noted Chimpster said "up to 4 spells"
Zakarr
Zakarr
Jungle Guide
• #11
Too bad there is tradeoff. Otherwise these skills might be useful sometimes.
Epinephrine
Epinephrine
Master of Beasts
• #12
They are useful. Especially in certain instances, like versus players using a single spell type, or when you'll be disabling your skill bar anyway. I wrote up a table of probabilities and expected numbers of steals with varying numbers of attempts a while back, can re-post it if needed, but the best part is that a player with only 1 spell will always lose that spell when targetted. This is very handy versus certain players, and iQ for example ran this to counter Gale Warriors at one point, since it eliminates the knockdown pressure (shock isn't a spell unfortunately).