Curse

Akilles · Jun 19, 2005, 06:15 PM // 18:15

Shappie · Jun 19, 2005, 08:03 PM // 20:03

Would be better if the skill recharge and casting speed were 20%. That health +29 should be a 30 also.

Very nice though, wish I had one.

StrykerMikado · Jun 19, 2005, 10:48 PM // 22:48

Thats got to be worth over 100k. Its pretty awsome.

daJwtt · Jun 19, 2005, 10:53 PM // 22:53

over 100k!?!?!?!

that's sweet

NoseJob · Jun 20, 2005, 05:45 AM // 05:45

I'll buy it for the price listed on the weapon itself. I'll even throw in a dye.

hellraisin · Jun 20, 2005, 06:01 AM // 06:01

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Originally Posted by Shappie

Would be better if the skill recharge and casting speed were 20%. That health +29 should be a 30 also.

Very nice though, wish I had one.

skill recharge/casting applied to all spells, is maxed at 10%. these are not the 20/20 you see for a specific spell type like fire,air etc.

Delita · Jun 20, 2005, 06:26 AM // 06:26

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I think you'd be better off getting the collector fire staff with 20/20, and putting in the two parts. Granted, those parts are expensive, and that is very sweet.

MCS · Jun 20, 2005, 07:02 AM // 07:02

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Originally Posted by Delita

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I think you'd be better off getting the collector fire staff with 20/20, and putting in the two parts. Granted, those parts are expensive, and that is very sweet.

Sorry to burst YOUR bubble, but thats like claiming the ascalon bow (short bow version) with 15% while health is above 50% is worth as much as a short bow or half moon with the same mods.

sysfailur · Jun 20, 2005, 08:15 AM // 08:15

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Originally Posted by MCS

Sorry to burst YOUR bubble, but thats like claiming the ascalon bow (short bow version) with 15% while health is above 50% is worth as much as a short bow or half moon with the same mods.

A: Your mommy was wrong.

B: The collector staff is EXACTLY the same as what that guy has stat-wise other than it's not 20/20. So ok, it's gold. WOOoOOOoOOOo.

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If you looted it like that, good on ya. If you put those mods in... well, not smart thinking.

Evan The Cursed · Jun 20, 2005, 08:19 AM // 08:19

Try and salvage the +30 hale o.o That would fetch a high price.

Lim-Dul · Jun 20, 2005, 08:21 AM // 08:21

No guys - you're wrong in two points:

1. The "pure" skill recharge and casting time boni (so the ones that apply to ALL skills) have a cap of 10%, so 8% and 7% is quite OK.

2. The collector staves have 20% boni on both CT and SR, but only for SPECIFIC SKILLS (like fire magic skills) and this might be good for a pure Fire E (who is becoming less and less popular cause Air Es are like twice as good for the sake of dmg spiking), but might be worse for other builds.

sysfailur · Jun 20, 2005, 08:24 AM // 08:24

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Originally Posted by Lim-Dul

No guys - you're wrong in two points:

1. The "pure" skill recharge and casting time boni (so the ones that apply to ALL skills) have a cap of 10%, so 8% and 7% is quite OK.

2. The collector staves have 20% boni on both CT and SR, but only for SPECIFIC SKILLS (like fire magic skills) and this might be good for a pure Fire E (who is becoming less and less popular cause Air Es are like twice as good for the sake of dmg spiking), but might be worse for other builds.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that yes, it's focused from the collector, but you can get whatever collector staff you want in about 5 minutes. I have one of each myself all modded.

Lim-Dul · Jun 20, 2005, 08:51 AM // 08:51

Yeah - I can't argue with that one. I'm using two collector staves myself. Of course you MIGHT find a better Wand/Focus combo, but that's highly unlikely and staves are SO easy to customize so that they suit your taste.

I mean, hell, with the right upgrades the collector staves are simply the best staves in the game. I don't care about an item being gold or purple if it's so uber.

sysfailur · Jun 20, 2005, 08:58 AM // 08:58

If I could get a fire wand with +15%ish to +1 fire I'd use that instead myself. Got a shield with +13%. Love hitting up to 19 fire

Maiyn · Jun 21, 2005, 09:31 AM // 09:31

Wow, that is pretty damn godly.

Saphic The Unclean · Jun 21, 2005, 10:50 AM // 10:50

hitting 19 on fire skill really doesn't mean much, the benefits you get from each skill point increase after 11 or 12 are REDICULOUSLY tiny, not linear as before the 12th point mar

A11Eur0 · Jun 21, 2005, 06:32 PM // 18:32

the skills increase damage at a constant rate. He's not worrying about damage dealt by the weapon itself, and he doesn't have to worry about allocating attribute points for it either, so it's a win-win situation.

sysfailur · Jun 21, 2005, 09:53 PM // 21:53

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Originally Posted by Saphic The Unclean

hitting 19 on fire skill really doesn't mean much, the benefits you get from each skill point increase after 11 or 12 are REDICULOUSLY tiny, not linear as before the 12th point mar

Well technically it's 7 extra fire on each meteor, and that + archane echo, you got a winner.

Lim-Dul · Jun 21, 2005, 10:22 PM // 22:22

Not really. The skills max out at 12 as your colleague observed and the boni you get after 12 are not really worth giving up 50 or 75 hp since when you compare the damage bonus vs. your hp penalty you'll surly see that it works to your disadvantage. Most good players I know use minor runes only. (P.S. How do you intend to hit 19 with Fire Magic? It's rather 18 - 12 base + 3 Sup Rune + 1 Item + 2 % while using items... 0_o)

P.S. Don't get me wrong - a score of like 14 (with a minor rune) and 16 with +% items is fine for me - I'd just never go further than that by putting a Sup Rune on ya. =) Do some math: calculate how many spells you'd have to cast on an enemy while the enemy would be casting spells on YOU to overcome you 75hp penalty - hell - it's just as if you'd be running around with a permanent DP. 0_o

eA-Zaku · Jun 21, 2005, 11:02 PM // 23:02

Who cares. It's a freakin staff with +59 life. I couldn't care less if it did NEGATIVE damage and had no recharge/cast speed bonus.