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Old Sep 04, 2005, 04:33 PM // 16:33   #21
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The build mainly works because of the current metagame.

Everyone and their mother is running smite, and as such, most denial guys are skewed toward enchant strips and caster shutdown. Groups lost a lot of skill slots simply because they were carrying things that had zero applicability to us.

I think the fact that we had no soft targets was a big contributing factor too. (Kill the monks first, right?)

Asplode, all of those things were problems, but we simply didn't run into groups that used them, or we overwhelmed them. It's hard to keep Soothing Images on 8 warriors all the time, and we only really needed three to drop a target fast.

Also, Irresistable Blow may be only one hit, but we had 8 of them. This was pivotal for killing trappers as well.

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Old Sep 04, 2005, 04:45 PM // 16:45   #22
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This is the next Flavour of the Month.
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Old Sep 04, 2005, 05:06 PM // 17:06   #23
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We should try and write the upcoming whine for it before the whiners do that
Nice work there, i've allways tried to do some petbased build but it awfully hard to come by people who are willed to bring those little beasts into pvp for all they can think of is "pet = weak".

But thats a real good use for Avenge. Funny how some folks considered avenge totally useless and underpowered in one of those "warriors too weak" threads
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Old Sep 04, 2005, 05:24 PM // 17:24   #24
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The best part about this is the literal "no strategy, all worries out the window all about fun" aspect of the build, warrs are so much fun to play, I really hope I get to try this build out sometime w/ my guild. If not, I'll go ask puggers or try to get w/ some people to coordinate it. Being that I'm a hammer enthusiast, I love how an all warr build actually pwns.
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Old Sep 04, 2005, 06:14 PM // 18:14   #25
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I Will Avenge You runs on Strength (the health regen), and with a Ranger that means a lot of damage taken.
Who ever said I was going ot use I will avenge you? 7x healing springs is good enough for me. Predatory season as well. 2 R/W cyclone apply poison, vim. 5 r/me, mantra of resolve, healing spring, pet attacks. You dont even need mantra if you dont want to take it/put points into that line.
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Old Sep 04, 2005, 08:07 PM // 20:07   #26
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Who ever said I was going ot use I will avenge you?
That was the whole point of the build. That's like saying why would I use attack skills on a Warrior?
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Old Sep 04, 2005, 08:14 PM // 20:14   #27
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If you had a PvE W/R, that build would be even more awesome - you could have level 1 pets that die in a jiffy.
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Old Sep 04, 2005, 08:51 PM // 20:51   #28
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rofl... I've wanted to do something like this for a long time.
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Old Sep 04, 2005, 08:53 PM // 20:53   #29
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So how exactly does the pet system work on a PvP character, do you start with one?
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Old Sep 04, 2005, 10:09 PM // 22:09   #30
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That was the whole point of the build. That's like saying why would I use attack skills on a Warrior?
And I said I wanted to try a variant of this build, I don't want to copy it skill for skill. Obviously if I use R/W's over W/R's defence will be a problem, and obviously the skillsets will be extremely different. If I went Me/E over E/Me and started echoing meteor shower, how do you think that build would turn out?

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So how exactly does the pet system work on a PvP character, do you start with one?
If you have the Charm Animal skill on your skillbar for a PvP only character you automatically start off with a level 20 elder wolf.

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Old Sep 04, 2005, 11:36 PM // 23:36   #31
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And I said I wanted to try a variant of this build, I don't want to copy it skill for skill.
Flame I wish not to, so talk I shall not. Yoda ftw.
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Old Sep 05, 2005, 01:11 AM // 01:11   #32
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That pet build is really fun, but you can't hold halls for any length.
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Old Sep 05, 2005, 01:29 AM // 01:29   #33
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LoL i can see it now. Nerfing pets out of PvP or just making i will avenge you totaly useless like they did to other skills. Hillarious tho. I laughed
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Old Sep 05, 2005, 01:53 AM // 01:53   #34
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That pet build is really fun, but you can't hold halls for any length.
We held it twice.
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Old Sep 05, 2005, 03:53 AM // 03:53   #35
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Aww, I want to do that. Message me in game if you need an extra person. Looks really fun... Too bad my guild is too stupid do somthing like this. And they made me an officer so I wouldn't leave.
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Old Sep 05, 2005, 07:11 AM // 07:11   #36
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Flame I wish not to, so talk I shall not. Yoda ftw.

woo... pwned... lol

I have wanted to try such similiar for a long time too... but no body in their bloody narrow mind would do this around me... dam to those with narrow mind...

hmm.... have you try this in GvG? LOL although I doubt GvG would be as easy... as team are more well rounded there... I hope?

nicely done...

Personally lv20 pet > lv1... main reason is that if they dont kill the pet the pet do some damage... if they do kill the pet (which with smite... really fast) you get similiar effect in about the same time. HOWEVEr... I would go into PvP anyday with level 1 pet if everyone playing a necro... WOOT easy dead bodies!! Try it with EoE + summon minion + death nova + taste of death + high soul reaping... omfg... AoE Spike Poison Amor Ignoring Damage... and you can put a few well up for healing and strip too... (revive animal > comfort animal)

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Old Sep 05, 2005, 04:48 PM // 16:48   #37
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Thats the greatest thing... i ever seen

smiters are thinkin "OH hahaha nobs, they have no smiters or moinks!, lets pwn them with our uuber dmg"
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We held it twice.
That isn't length
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This is becoming more and more popular. Mark my words, I said this first: "I Will Avenge You" build is going to become the next Flavour of the Month.
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Old Sep 05, 2005, 08:54 PM // 20:54   #40
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So how exactly does the pet system work on a PvP character, do you start with one?
Use summon animal and you'll get an Elder Wolf as a pet.
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