Jan 21, 2006, 04:56 AM // 04:56
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Wilds Pathfinder
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: The Northeast
Guild: Knights Of Thulcandra [KoT]
Profession: W/E
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Ok my grammer isnt the best but check this out
Ok im no whiz in the grammer department but I think somethings up here.
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Jan 21, 2006, 05:08 AM // 05:08
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Teenager with attitude
Join Date: Jul 2005
Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]
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It can be properly worded,
"...if it hits and causes target foe..."
or,
"...if it hits, causing target foe..."
Also, it's grammar. Grammer is a company that makes seats for vehicles.
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People are stupid.
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Jan 21, 2006, 05:14 AM // 05:14
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#3
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Wilds Pathfinder
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: The Northeast
Guild: Knights Of Thulcandra [KoT]
Profession: W/E
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haha like I said not my best spot d=
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Jan 21, 2006, 06:42 AM // 06:42
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#4
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Did I hear 7 heroes?
Join Date: May 2005
Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)
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Read some of the assassin and ritualist skills.
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Jan 21, 2006, 07:08 AM // 07:08
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#5
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Banned
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: /B/Chan
Guild: Looking for one
Profession: W/
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English sounds funny.
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Jan 21, 2006, 07:46 AM // 07:46
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Oz
Guild: Angel Sharks
Profession: Me/N
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To get super technical it should be: "if it hits, and causes..." or "if it hits, causing..."
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Jan 21, 2006, 08:30 PM // 20:30
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#7
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Canada
Profession: N/Me
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I believe it is worded right since in English there can't be a comma in front of "and" as far as I know, but it would also work if they made it "if it hits, causing..."
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Jan 21, 2006, 09:07 PM // 21:07
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#8
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: In a maze of twisty passages, all alike
Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty
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In English there can't be a comma in front of and?! You mean after "and" methinks.
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Jan 22, 2006, 12:20 AM // 00:20
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2005
Location: UK, or is it? *confused*
Profession: A/Rt
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or what about "if it hits, it will also cause..."?
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Jan 22, 2006, 12:41 AM // 00:41
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#10
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: England, UK
Profession: D/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by berko
I believe it is worded right since in English there can't be a comma in front of "and" as far as I know, but it would also work if they made it "if it hits, causing..."
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Yes there can, example;
Person 1: Hey I got a new Mobile today!
Person 2: And, what's your point?
Wasn't it originally, or it should be: ?
Target foe is struck for X cold damage and moves 66% slower for X seconds.
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Jan 22, 2006, 10:25 AM // 10:25
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#12
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Oz
Guild: Angel Sharks
Profession: Me/N
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Quote:
Originally Posted by berko
I believe it is worded right since in English there can't be a comma in front of "and" as far as I know, but it would also work if they made it "if it hits, causing..."
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Hate to disappoint you, but if you speak English (as opposed to Microsoft Speak) then a comma MUST BE USED IN LISTING. Not using a comma implies grouping. For example:
1) I received a letter, a parcel, and a bill.
-> I received a letter, I received a pacel, I received a bill.
2) I received a letter, and a parcel and bill.
-> I received a letter, I received a parcel and bill
This construction (grouping) means that the bill was received with the pacel and is associated with it. Most would take it to mean that the bill payable was for the pacel.
In the context of this skill it is a listing, not a grouping: it causes x effect, and x effect.
Colloquially the comma MAY be left out in listings of two, but grammatically it should be included.
In case of doubt there is a little trick to using commas. Read the sentence out loud. If you make a pause, place a comma.
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Jan 22, 2006, 02:55 PM // 14:55
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#13
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Jungle Guide
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Quick! Someone bring in Tyria's Union of English Teachers! LOL
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Jan 22, 2006, 07:36 PM // 19:36
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#14
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jul 2005
Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare] | [Rare] Alliance
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Here's another one that slipped past the proofreaders:
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Jan 22, 2006, 08:11 PM // 20:11
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#15
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: The home of the ancients
Guild: Bananer i pyjamas
Profession: N/
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lets be honest they just got it blatently wrong! I loved the last one btw thanks for that
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Jan 22, 2006, 10:20 PM // 22:20
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Banned
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: dayton ohio
Profession: N/Mo
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onlyable, looks like george w. is also trying to take over the gaming industry with his commander and chief powers
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May 31, 2006, 09:56 AM // 09:56
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#17
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jan 2006
Profession: Mo/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Lozza
Hate to disappoint you, but if you speak English (as opposed to Microsoft Speak) then a comma MUST BE USED IN LISTING. Not using a comma implies grouping. For example:
2) I received a letter, and a parcel and bill.
-> I received a letter, I received a parcel and bill
This construction (grouping) means that the bill was received with the pacel and is associated with it.
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Actually there's no MUST about it, it's purely conditional. The comma before the final 'and' in a list is only used to avoid confusion in certain structures. It's perfectly acceptable to omit it provided there's no ambiguity. The main thing that implies grouping in your sentence is the fact the first two items were preceeded with "I receieved a" and the third wasn't.
A better example would be: "I received a letter and a parcel and a bill". The ambiguity there would be that you could group any two of these or all three together. The sentence "I received a letter, and a parcel and a bill" would suggest the second two are grouped. You could also group the second two by omiting the 'a' from 'a bill', as in "I received a letter and a parcel and bill".
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Lozza
Colloquially the comma MAY be left out in listings of two, but grammatically it should be included.
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Also wrong. The comma is used to avoid ambiguity. Please tell me how you could possibly confuse the grouping of TWO items.
Is "Egg and Bacon" any different from "Egg, and Bacon"?
I'm not usually one for being pedantic but I hate to see misinformation put so strongly. For once I'm making a rant that is actually on-topic.
Last edited by Jestah; May 31, 2006 at 11:17 AM // 11:17..
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May 31, 2006, 09:58 AM // 09:58
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#18
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Right Behind You
Guild: The Raven Evolution [wvw]
Profession: A/
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i dont see anything wrong...
(i failed english XD)
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May 31, 2006, 01:04 PM // 13:04
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#19
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Scotland
Guild: [DS]
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Holy dead threads, Batman!
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Jun 01, 2006, 02:22 AM // 02:22
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#20
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Wilds Pathfinder
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: The Northeast
Guild: Knights Of Thulcandra [KoT]
Profession: W/E
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Jesus I completely forgot about this...
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