Curse

Thorin · Aug 24, 2006, 12:25 PM // 12:25

ZenRgy · Aug 24, 2006, 12:29 PM // 12:29

I feel your pain.

I advertise as a fast-cast nuker though.

boxterduke · Aug 24, 2006, 01:05 PM // 13:05

Thats why I do not even bother with pugs.
I just take henches or go with the guild.

Notice this though when Nightfall comes out.
For the first 2-3 weeks of the new chapter, people will just add you to groups without you asking to get into any.
I played with my Mesmer first in Factions and I had no trouble getting into groups.

RotteN · Aug 24, 2006, 01:26 PM // 13:26

mesmers ftw

i always take henchies though

Zakarr · Aug 24, 2006, 01:35 PM // 13:35

I have finished Chapter 1 with mesmer and it wasn't that hard. When playing in the evening (GMT +2.00), there is more open-minded people and you will get a chance in pugs too. One warrior didn't even complain when I resurrected him with Vengeance because there wasn't enchanment removers and MoR made it possible to raise him instantly.

Phenixfire · Aug 24, 2006, 02:05 PM // 14:05

well, a golden guideline:

PuGs suck ... Henchs own ^^

Henchs have all the advantages pougs dont have ... they follow your calls, withdraw when you do ( only in few cases they dont ), they rezz instantly, faction ones even have conditon and hex removal, smth an avarage monk NEVER has -.-

the avarage pug is just plain stupid ... thinks he knows better what to do than anyone else, why listen to others then and work as a team ^^ ...
they consider mesmers, one of the elite classes of the game, to be useless 'because everyone does so' ..

if you can, do your stuff with henchs. if you cant do that, do it with friends. if you cant do that, do it with guildies. if you cant do that, disco and wait a bit until friends or guildies are online .... take pugs only as a last resort or if you are the group leader and have kick-power on your side -.-

Avarre · Aug 24, 2006, 02:36 PM // 14:36

Eh, teams that don't see the usefulness of a domination mesmer aren't teams I'd want to play with anyway

It's also better to make the teams, then they can't kick the mesmer!

Hyper Cutter · Aug 24, 2006, 03:05 PM // 15:05

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Originally Posted by Thorin

lol, especially the devourer part.

Thorin · Aug 24, 2006, 03:26 PM // 15:26

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It's also better to make the teams, then they can't kick the mesmer!

Yeah, that's what I was forced to do with my assassin when I first started Factions. There were 80 of them in every town, and 90% of them didn't know how to use an assassin.

**cosyfiep** · Aug 24, 2006, 05:39 PM // 17:39

my guild is small.....my mesmer cant get thru eternal grove....ARRRRGHHHHHH!
and its not an easily hench-able mission either.....Tyria was all henchable with 2 people (even THK can be done pretty easily with henchies)...but not some of these ......anyone want to help my mesmer thru eternal grove? she wants to get some pretty armor in vasburg armory......oh well.....hope my guidees come thru (my monk is helping out the guildee assassin so I should at least get his help ya'dthink).

CHUIU · Aug 24, 2006, 05:51 PM // 17:51

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Originally Posted by boxterduke

Thats why I do not even bother with pugs.
I just take henches or go with the guild.

Notice this though when Nightfall comes out.
For the first 2-3 weeks of the new chapter, people will just add you to groups without you asking to get into any.
I played with my Mesmer first in Factions and I had no trouble getting into groups.

Maybe its just me but I would rather bring a Dom mesmer than a fast cast nuker.

Gwmaster · Aug 24, 2006, 06:56 PM // 18:56

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

my guild is small.....my mesmer cant get thru eternal grove....ARRRRGHHHHHH!
and its not an easily hench-able mission either.....Tyria was all henchable with 2 people (even THK can be done pretty easily with henchies)...but not some of these ......anyone want to help my mesmer thru eternal grove? she wants to get some pretty armor in vasburg armory......oh well.....hope my guidees come thru (my monk is helping out the guildee assassin so I should at least get his help ya'dthink).

get a ritual lord..they are pretty good at that mission.if you need help look at my chars name on the left

Racthoh · Aug 24, 2006, 08:46 PM // 20:46

Unless the mesmer is interrupting Reversal of Fortune like Erys Varsburg, I see no reason not to take the henchmen over a PC.

Derek413 · Aug 24, 2006, 08:56 PM // 20:56

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

Unless the mesmer is interrupting Reversal of Fortune like Erys Varsburg, I see no reason not to take the henchmen over a PC.

Why interupt it when you can Diversion it?

eVeRt · Aug 24, 2006, 09:18 PM // 21:18

I played through faction with my mesmer as an interrupter(simply because I loved playing that) and I actually got alot of compliments about my interrupting. Aflicted Elementalists were my biggest friends. Ahhh the good times.

Two April Mornings · Aug 24, 2006, 10:17 PM // 22:17

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

Unless the mesmer is interrupting Reversal of Fortune like Erys Varsburg, I see no reason not to take the henchmen over a PC.

really, if u could henchway anything, even HA with Erys, you could dominate (heh).

To the OP, i feel the pain.

Thorin · Aug 24, 2006, 10:54 PM // 22:54

Well I love my mesmer, and just for the record, I didn't kill her. She's still alive and kicking, screaming at times. I was capping power block and midnight signet not too long ago, and came across a group of hydra. I interrupted all of their meteor showers. Now most people in a group wouldn't even know that I did that. They just don't know how kickass a mesmer can actually be.

I think I'm going to venture into Cantha with her and get some Kurzick armor.

Gigashadow · Aug 24, 2006, 11:16 PM // 23:16

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Originally Posted by Derek413

Why interupt it when you can Diversion it?

Because NPCs die so quickly it doesn't matter.

Mesmers had it better in Tyria, where there annoying single bosses were more prevalent. In Cantha there's a lot more zerg type encounters, where the precision tool of a domination mesmer isn't as useful. Although PvE is so easy you can still hench almost anything, even with no skills on your bar at all.

In Cantha when hencing things, I tend to go illusion and power myself with Mantra of Recall, and just lay down degens on everything (as our degen ability got buffed hugely with Images of Remorse. Even Conjure Nightmare is ok with a good energy engine).

Age · Aug 24, 2006, 11:31 PM // 23:31

How is Nightfall going to change all this though?

Phenixfire · Aug 25, 2006, 12:12 AM // 00:12

well, it won't ...

mesmers are crap .. that has been the opinion of most players right from the start .. if it aint broke, dont fix it... means as long as you can do without mesmers, they remain crap in the minds of PuGs