Curse

t_a_k · Jan 02, 2006, 08:43 PM // 20:43

I must admit, I am impressed. And intrigued, too. It was always my impression that the UW was unsoloable except a few of the earlier quests (terror webs, coldfyres, smites, etc). Then again, my UW is extremely limited compared to my play time in the rest of the game.

You may have heard of me, or maybe not, on GWO. There I am "Ubermancer" (yeah yeah, I dont like the name anymore either, but it has almost 1200 posts under it, so Im not about to rename) and gained some tiny bit of fame for soloing things like Dreadnaughts Drift, Perdition Rock, and Ice Dome. Heres a pic of Maw dead at my feet (so to speak) : http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...bletrolls6.jpg

That may have come off as bragging, but please think of it as an application. I would love to join you some day, as I think I have what it takes to participate with a group on that level. I will of course begin trying to emulate your efforts immediatly, even if you should turn me down. Of course, if you decide to let me join you, I wont release anything you tell me, however if I come to it myself, Ill consider it fair game... That shouldnt come off as a threat that I will get your build nerfed if you dont help me, because thats not in my interests, and it was an attempt to reassure you that I wont spread what you obviously want to keep secret around.

My ingame name is Righteous Theory. I have a Necro, Monk, and a Warrior (plus a fledgling Elementalist).

manitoba1073 · Jan 02, 2006, 11:23 PM // 23:23

great job. glad to see others trying to go far too. but i have a freind bring his ranger build when we do 2 man. bout the only parts we havent done yet is chaos plains and pits. but great job guys.

Holy Arch · Jan 03, 2006, 02:47 AM // 02:47

green and purple...you must be promoted to l33t king of the undeworld

i didnt know half those monsters existed

so through your academy we only learn your portion. wouldnt that be useless since its a 3 person build and we dont know the necro or mo/me. unless we wanna pretend to own and be like now i know how to pwn the uw cept i dont g0tz my other teammates so ill sit here and reek in my 1337ness

Fire Childe · Jan 03, 2006, 04:56 AM // 04:56

for people attempting this, you dont actually need to kill all the mindblades on the chaos planes. you can skip most of this area by clearing the path up to the serpent mountains monument and activating the teleport first. i have not played underworld in some months though and do not know if anet fixed the slayer getting stuck on behemoths but if it still does - all the better. just makes things easier. once the monument mission is complete there isnt really any point to going back here.

run back to the chaos plains and bow pull all the dreamriders. lead them up to the serpent mountain trail and teleport back to the labyrinth. the dreamriders will get stuck in the serpent mountains and wont be able to pathfind their way back to their original spawn points. this way you dont need to fight about 200 mindblades, save yourself a good few hours and the hassle of killing them all individually.

sno · Jan 03, 2006, 05:46 AM // 05:46

@Holy arch: In my academy I don't teach our 3man build (guild secret.) I do teach how to clear 'most' of the UW using 2 people though (yes, both parts)

@Fire childe: Why would you want to not kill the mindblades? They drop ecto

Jiao Yang · Jan 03, 2006, 11:20 AM // 11:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homsar

Actually, if you read my earlier post, you will learn that I am the tank, not snow.

Gwen

yea, i didnt think sno would load his FoW armour with all the sup runes..

1 question tho.. why dont u use full tats?

sno · Jan 03, 2006, 11:43 AM // 11:43

Gwen does use full tats now, he didn't have them yet at the time of the screenshots.

All 3 of us are now rockin' full FoW, so we look goooood.

@jiao yang: ... lol

Azn D · Jan 04, 2006, 02:05 PM // 14:05

Damn y'all are good, A few guildies and i also tried to do the same, but we only got to the mindblade idiots... They crapped up in 3-6-9, we knew that, but eh they were too much... Y'all are damn good

kimahri · Jan 04, 2006, 06:40 PM // 18:40

I'm amazed, 2 friends of mine often solo UW, I'll ask them how far they've gotten. I've only gotten as far as to the behemoths, good work Sno.

The undead Mesmer · Jan 04, 2006, 06:44 PM // 18:44

the behemoths are hard to kill they use what whas it called again the spirit that rips your enchantments and stuff.

(darn i forgot it)

annyway how do you beat the behemoths when whe know that whe can solo the rest

even the terrorwebs <--- not 100% sure about that.

sno · Jan 04, 2006, 07:11 PM // 19:11

Lol. Behemoths and terorwebs are the LEAST of your problems in the underworld. The spirit they use is 'Nature's Renewal', and it doesn't strip enchants, but makes them 2x as expensive to maintain, and makes hexes/enchants take 2x as long to cast. Quite simple to get around if you think about it.

Just wait till you meet the Riders, and the Mindblades, and Dead Threshers/Dead Collectors. You'll be begging for behemoths.

Jiao Yang · Jan 04, 2006, 07:32 PM // 19:32

sorry sno got confused....

just to clear my tangled mind- am i right in saying:
sno=tank (from the screens it looks that way)
gwen=tank prot of some kind or something

(not sure if u were serious that u were the tank but maybe im stupid)
pants=obviously deals the dmg

dont mind me if i seem like a noob... its in the blood

Azn D · Jan 04, 2006, 07:48 PM // 19:48

Behemoths are easy peezy, especially for the necros they just hide behind the walls and cast, those mindblades are pfft well... you don't like those behemoths? Don't expect to get far afterwards then...

xBakox · Jan 04, 2006, 08:19 PM // 20:19

Yea me and Azn D got to Chaos Plains with a couple other guildies. We got pwned by the group of 9 mindblades. All of us died but our "helper" monk and she got us all to safety. Then we headed to the Bone Pits, killed a few groups of Threshers but got to a huge group where we decided we couldnt go on. We used 5 people (2 monk, 3 necros). We definately could have done 4 but we wanted it to go really fast. So now we have to figure out this build :P.

sysfailur · Jan 05, 2006, 03:34 AM // 03:34

Good lord... I guess I should make my PVP monk a PVE monk. I'm all about looting--but I've taken a large break from the game and guess I'm out of the template loop rofl.

<insert darth vader impressive!>

Pyrea · Jan 05, 2006, 03:37 AM // 03:37

Nice going!!!

I've hopefully found some peeps now who can explore UW with me further.

For me it's the last unexplored place in Tyria (or beneath it lol)

I've been around most of FoW, but UW looks so cool (especially deeper in)

Kcp · Jan 05, 2006, 08:32 AM // 08:32

I think I may have spoken with you in game before. Shortly afterwards my trusty sidekick monk and I cleared chaos plains and spawning pools 2 man. Just to see if it was doable. Took quite a few hours, but we cleared em out

IMO the worst of the mindblades spawns were the groups of 3...just because them annoying things swing so slow when they go in to melee mode, thus making it difficult to gain nrg. I handled a group of 6 all by myself with no sb somehow, while monk was afk, and of course this was with the n/mo + mo/mes 2 man combo.

I noticed the mindblades are alot easier with higher life... towards the end i switched the -50 hp out for the 27 nrg- 1 degen 30 life focus (collector curse) It made dealing with the degen alot easier, and since they swing so damn slow the -10 damage or so they were dealing in melee didnt really hurt or offset the regen from mending,watchful,and healing breeze.

Ajantis · Jan 05, 2006, 09:36 AM // 09:36

3 man build isn't soo hard, 2 man is.. :/

Tried ice king with 2.. Found a way to tank almost all of the dryders but 18 at once were a little too many in the end

Same with those mindblades.. Pretty hard to control aggro, guess 3 man teams is the way to go

sysfailur · Jan 05, 2006, 02:29 PM // 14:29

I saw this thread and it made me wanna get the whip crackin on my PVE monk. Soo... 8 hours later she's level 9 in Augury Rock w/ everything you have there for monk san-mark of protection. I like figuring things out on my own when I see stuff like this so I won't be asking for your 20plat class. But I've got a necro buddy and I will be trying to figure out what you're doing :P

I tested this template (with a level 8, 60 armor, all minor rune monk) on about 8 hyrdas outside augury rock. Seems to work good so far as I was able to tank for about 45 seconds with no prob until I started getting knocked down like crazy. UW+lvl20+MOP,etc should be a piece of cake.

Thanks for the strat

When I hit 20 and get my attrib I'll snag the sup runes and really do some testing haha

I started at 1am and now....

Rhuobhe · Jan 05, 2006, 03:37 PM // 15:37

It seems to me like Shatter Hex would be useful for a 2/3 man build.

It's safe to say the necro is using at least:
Spiteful Spirit {E}
Sympathetic Visage
Arcane Echo
Shatter Hex

I'm not so sure that the other skills really make a life/death difference for the mindblades at least...

I'm also guessing by one of the screenshots that they are using Suffering...

The other monk in this case has holy veil. Since you may be up against 3, 6, or 9 mindblades, it would make sence that this enchantment isn't solely used for the hex removal, instead I think it's possible that they use it to increase the interrupt window against hexes. So perhaps the necro is taking Cry of Frustration, Power Spike, etc.

Another thought on the mindblades: If you keep SV on the tank at all times, the mindblades will have no energy to thow hexes or interrupt. I think that is the real key here. First, take care of the Dream Rider. Try to either: not use SB -or- time it so that the Rider dies around the time SB recharges. Since the first group is only 3, and therefore energy will be an issue for the monk, I'd say SB is best used on this group.

After SB keep SV on and the rest is cake. Shattering hexes when the opportunity presents itself will just help the monk and increase damage output.

I hope this helps, and when I do discover a working build for 2/3 man, I will post it and get credit. I hope others will do the same, I believe Righteous Theory would at least.

So, you may want to take credit for the build before someone else does