Curse

mojave mango juice · May 20, 2007, 02:35 PM // 14:35

o.o I was gone for a day and I'm three pages behind!

Some of my friends graduated last night, fun stuff...so proud of them

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Mojave - (This is where I draw the line on rude comments)

Um...I'm a bit confused by this comment...o_O

Riesz · May 20, 2007, 03:28 PM // 15:28

Wow, such creative shots this week! I especially love Lokii's shot and story.

Arala's is also adorable, I just love the pose looking like the two of you are holding hands on a walk.

I'm so excited for the party too; can't wait to see everyone!

Oh and for anyone having trouble converting their timezone to GMT, here's a nifty page:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html

Nian · May 20, 2007, 03:41 PM // 15:41

Nice pics girls! Beyoncee's looks the most model like imho. Very nice. I don't personally find any kind of uh...indecency in hotpants. I think they're cool. It's a hot climate and it fits. Also Arala's and Szei's pictures look very clean. I think you guys pulled off the modern mum look very well. Arala's background I like a lot and Szei's kid looks nice, I like the colors.

I don't understand the comment Mango got either? From what I read on the other thread I thought she had some major difficulties with the aura and I can easily believe that.

P.S.
I don't mean to be rude but is this still a modeling competition or is it babysitting next

?

edit:// Mila I love your other shot! Your character looks beautiful in it.

The Last Anthem · May 20, 2007, 03:50 PM // 15:50

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Originally Posted by Caleb Kane

but yeah, at least my tits aren't hanging out

pls stop breastfeeding your 12 year old son ok?

Not even going to ask why you had to bring my picture into this.
I thought the last line was actually funny since I didn't even think of the armor when I used it.
But yeah. whatever

And Mango when Nilene said 'Mojave - (This is where I draw the line on rude comments)'... she probably thought the comments were too rude for even her
I think she should at least pm them to you if she thinks its going to start even more drama on the thread :l

Ember010 · May 20, 2007, 04:29 PM // 16:29

Things are a bit...heated in this thread now. I love this competition but i think the atmosphere was much better in the first cycle.

Loooking forward 2 seeing you later, regardless anyways =P

Maria The Princess · May 20, 2007, 04:49 PM // 16:49

all the drama is upsetting. yes you have to deal with criticism, and osmetimes its harsh, but this also happens in real life when you have to take criticism from your employers, teachers or even friends.

but i see something that bothers me even more. in cycle 1, the judges were alittle... nicer? in every comment there was constructive criticism. even if i didnt agree with each one of them, every comment was rather polite then rude. yes, theres nicer ways to say the same thing. look at Antm, even if the judges are not happy with the shots, they still point out what was wrong and how the competitor should be improving. they didnt just made rude comments and jump to the next shot.

im not sure if this cycle its the same judges or not, but it would be nice if they remembered this:

even if you people are the judges, you have to remember that who you are judging are also people with feelings. sure its fun to criticise others hard work, but you shoudl know where to draw the line not to go too far and hurting someones feelings. in cycle 2 you seemed to take this "job" more seriously, your comments were actually helpful rather then just dissing. how can you complain about drama on the thread when you throw around comments comparing contestants to a celebrity who obviously is in deep trouble, and bring out another celebrity that is just as skanky as her but didn't shave her head?

those are people youre judging, not pieces of meat. try to act more like it was cycle 1 maby? before Tntm became so popular and you actually had to keep people interested in this thread? after throwing rude comments like this, what did you expect from the contestants? there only people, not all of us have a patience of a saint to hear so much BS and keep smiling. theres good criticism, when its actually helpful, and theres the bad one, that sounds like its coming from a 10 year old who just "didnt like the picture" but cant really say anything smart about it.

yes drama is fun, but after every photo shoot? it becomes a bar fight. reminds me of that "black hole bar fight" thread on off topic forum.

ok i'm done venting.

Jeff Highwind · May 20, 2007, 05:13 PM // 17:13

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Originally Posted by LadyNilene

Firstly, all this "drama" immediately reminds me of someone during the interviews who asked me something along the lines of "Is TNTM scripted?". No, no it is not scripted, I do not tell any of our contestants how to react or anything to that sort lol

Secondly, every week, someone has to complain about their comments. One of the first things I said to everyone was "We are going to be rude and critiquing will be harsh" and asked and prepared alot of you on what you could expect and all of you jumped and said yes. And every week, someone just acts so shocked that they're being attacked. Wake up, this is the industry. Either you can stand strong and shine through or crumble to pieces, thats your decision, but make the right one.

Anyways, here are some brief comments that our other judge had to say...

Arala - very classy shot
Beyoncee - did not feel emotional connection between characters
Bierflesjes - Wardrobe malfunction very distracting
Lokii - Cunning story to picture, very fun
Lunamaria - Funny story, but picture looks like manhandling child
Miss - Endearing picture, most emotional but lacks child's face
Mila - butt looks too big
Mojave - (This is where I draw the line on rude comments)
Szei - Great picture, very believable.

Alight, the scores are all added up and we have our MOTW and eliminated contestant ready to announce later today. Good Luck to everyone!

I really hope this is a joke. This isnt critiquing, critiquing is actually pointing out good features and suggesting that others can be fixed. I know this because I camp the art forum and they go into paragraphs of suggestions and praises on what is good and what is bad. This...this is just saying "oh lol this one detail sucks you fail." It's just so blunt, rude and blatant that it doesn't even sound the judges even give half a care.

And how the HELL Can you justify docking someone because "their butt looks big?!" That is not only sexist but just basically saying I dont like your character design whatsoever.

Unlucky Slayer · May 20, 2007, 05:39 PM // 17:39

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Originally Posted by Unlucky Slayer

I would like to remind everyone that while the spam rules are lax in here there are a whole set of rules that are being enforced... Please, if you really truely have a problem with stuff thats said in this thread or what the judges say, please bring it up in private. Either Me for forum issues, or Lady Nilene for contest issues. I don't want to have to come back in here and have to clean crap up.

And yes I do have my opinions about what the judges said this week, but meh its not really worth arguing or complaning about.

Anyway, carry on.

Just quoting my post on the previous page... Please keep this in mind, everyone.

Foxeye · May 20, 2007, 05:42 PM // 17:42

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Originally Posted by Jeff Highwind

And how the HELL Can you justify docking someone because "their butt looks big?!"

Because it's a modelling competion. Well, ok, not REALLY a modeling competition, but it is imitating a modelling competition. And in such a thing, a model who portrays her physique in an unflattering light will certainly have it held against her. Short necks, big buts/guts, jaw too strong, etc...it's all very very common on the *NTM shows. If anything, that critique is one of the more "in character" ones we've seen.

LadyNilene · May 20, 2007, 08:21 PM // 20:21

Everyone, just take it down a notch, as I said before, if you're not comfortable with being in the competition than please leave, I'm not holding anyone against their will, and I'm still surprised on what all the hype is about. I made sure you all understand what you we're getting into during the interviews, so all this here is unnecessary to me. I apologize if you guys are offended, but this is how it goes in the industry, love it or hate it.

Alright, I'm on my break at work, so just informing everyone that I won't be able to post the results till later tonight!

And for those who have contacted me about the boot camp deal, I know I haven't gotten back to many of you, so here's some more info about that, it probably won't happen till the end of Cycle 2, and depending on when exactly Eye Of The North is released Cycle 3 might or might not be included. If we choose to drop the Cycle 3 competitors than expect a five on five or six on six between Cycle 1/2. But hopefully we can get Cycle 3 to make it more interesting. The application for the Cycle 3 people won't be posted since it might cause more spam, so just directly contact me and I'll get you situated.

Thank you!

Glitched · May 20, 2007, 08:23 PM // 20:23

I've been monitoring this contest since it started, but I haven't posted yet. I just thought I'd give my own comments to this week's since I don't completely agree with all of the comments.

Arala Starsong This shot is really kind of cute. My only real complaint is the ick proportions but that can't be helped. Your choice of background was really nice.

Beyoncee Knowlez I'm almost scared to critique this one with all of the arguing. I can't say that I like it, but it's not because of the armor, I actually think it works. My complaints are the distance between you and the kid and the fact that you're almost a part of the background. Your face is blurred and I don't think you're the subject of this shot.

Bierflesjes Klauw Boob aside, you chose the best possible child for the picture. The background works but I don't see you as cheering for the kid, rather than something off-camera.

Lokii Dia It's a real nice looking shot, but I don't see too much of a connection between you and the kid. It looks as though it could be the kid next door as easily as your son. Besides that, its a fair shot.

Lunamaria Cruz I wouldn't have seen you as looking like a sister had a judge suggested it, but now I see it. You were another Vabbian but the hug looks great.

Mila Fox You have been my second favorite in this competition, and probably will still be. But this is a sad shot. My family could eat dinner on your butt and you look a tad like a centaur. Additionally, you look like you're pulling a coin from behind the girl's ear. There is much more I could point out in the shot, but I'll leave it at you could have done much better.

Miss Melly You look like you are comforting your girl, which is great. The only thing I can complain about is the inability to see her face, but otherwise this is a very good shot.

Mojave Mango Juice Uh...err...hmm. Well, there isn't too much that can be said. It's a very plain, very safe shot and quite underwhelming. I'm trying my hardest to point out something nice but I just can't find it.

Szei Ren You're my favorite in this competition, and you've brought an overall great shot to a collection of mediocre ones. You're one of three people to have a unique background choice and I completely get the feel of being at a game.

My personal list of best to worst, based on this week alone:
1. Arala Starsong
2. Szei Ren
3. Miss Melly
4. Lunamaria Cruz
5. Lokii Dia
6. Bierflesjes Klauw
7. Beyoncee Knowlez
8. Mila Fox
9. Mojave Mango Juice

I hope I don't take any flack from the list or comments. I could be way off lol.

mojave mango juice · May 20, 2007, 08:44 PM // 20:44

Alright...I wasn't gonna post this until I knew what my third comment was, but eh...I know my shot wasn't the best this week, and I know we are supposed to be able to accept harsh criticism. I can handle criticism fine, as was promised on my application. However, I was always taught that criticism was pointing out the goods and bads of things. However, the comments lately have not been what I consider criticism. I don't know, maybe I've spent too much time in the art forums lately. Over there, people are told good and bad points of their artwork, and how they can be improved. I saw a lot more of that in here last cycle. However, the comments lately have seemed to have degraded. Some seem rather rushed. I have spoken to some of the others (I will not name names for their privacy), and they, like I, would like to improve. We can not improve from these two-word, hasty, negative comments. If something is bad, please tell us why it is bad, so that we can go to make it better. As promised in my form, I will accept harsh criticism. But there is a difference between criticism and "(This is where I draw the line on rude comments)."

Geishe · May 20, 2007, 09:52 PM // 21:52

omgod! Did I miss the party? I was at work, 2pm EST, right? AHHHHH!

and lol at the conflicts. This is so much more exciting than cycle 1... cycle 1 was just a bunch of casual gamers (apart from Jaden) trying to have fun and make friends. I love the realistic cat fighting going on, actually makes it seem like television!

Brandon1107 · May 20, 2007, 10:36 PM // 22:36

Really nice shots.

For Beyoncee's shot I don't think you can say she isn't motherly by what she is wearing. Everyone has their own perspective and if you actually think about the climate of a real savahna you, would be wearing that too.

But one thing I did notice about the judges this cycle was that, I think they become a little harsher and though they did say for the application you have to be able to take the critism, there is a thin line between constructive critism and just being plain rude, and you have to know what boundry.

Anyways, I enjoyed the party for the part I was at. It was fun meeting everyone. It was a real great idea. Here are two shots of everyone. Not the best shots but oh well:

http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?i...hering1nv9.png

http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?i...hering2hu4.png

The Last Anthem · May 20, 2007, 10:41 PM // 22:41

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Originally Posted by Geishe

omgod! Did I miss the party? I was at work, 2pm EST, right? AHHHHH!

and lol at the conflicts. This is so much more exciting than cycle 1... cycle 1 was just a bunch of casual gamers (apart from Jaden) trying to have fun and make friends. I love the realistic cat fighting going on, actually makes it seem like television!

yup you missed it

it was lots of fun we were being harassed in LA so mango guested them to her other guild so we all went there and hung out for like..the past 4-5hours XD
heres some screenies

me and mango were on our monks and not our tntm chars and not everyone was there yet

monkss taking over AKKI hall

more monkies <3

szei-mila-me dancing on the boat

I didn't get one of everyone but I'm sure someone did

Geishe · May 20, 2007, 10:48 PM // 22:48

OH nooooo!!!

NEXT WEEK? DIFFERENT TIME?! AHHH?

The Last Anthem · May 20, 2007, 11:03 PM // 23:03

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Originally Posted by Geishe

OH nooooo!!!

NEXT WEEK? DIFFERENT TIME?! AHHH?

actually they were saying that they wanted to do it again every sunday lol get online sooner!!!

Geishe · May 20, 2007, 11:15 PM // 23:15

I can try, but Ill be late... work doesnt end till 3 hours after the party starts.

Oogami · May 20, 2007, 11:27 PM // 23:27

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Originally Posted by Geishe

I can try, but Ill be late... work doesnt end till 3 hours after the party starts.

Well we hanged in the guild Hall for quite some time ^^ so .... might still work

Caleb Kane · May 20, 2007, 11:30 PM // 23:30

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Originally Posted by The Last Anthem

Not even going to ask why you had to bring my picture into this.
I thought the last line was actually funny since I didn't even think of the armor when I used it.
But yeah. whatever

when you're roleplaying as janet jackson i dont think you have the right to call anybody elses wardrobe choice skanky