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LadyNilene · Apr 29, 2007, 05:23 AM // 05:23

Congratulations to those who made it through the first panel! I'm sure everyone is a little on edge after seeing the first results and their first panel, but there is no time to get nervous now!

For your second assignment, each of you will portray a fairy tale princess! I have specifically chosen a character for each of you based on your character look/armor/etc. So here is the list on who will portray whom...

Arala Starsong, you are such a cute monk and I see no one better for you to portray than Alice In Wonderland. I think if you wear the wanderer's armor, I think you can resemble Alice greatly. My advice for you is to recreate the Tea Party scene. I would bring in two male models, have one wear a Freezie Crown and another the Pumpkin Crown and you can almost have that crazy, funky feel that the tea party scene had.

Beyoncee Knowlez, you're a mesmer with vabbian armor, so you can achieve this gypsy appeal to your character. So for you, you will be portraying Esmeralda from the Hunchback of Notre Dame. The Mesmer dance is very gypsy or you can do the excited emote.

Bierflesjes Klaus, we think you have a slight asian appeal to your character, so we've chosen Mulan for your character to portray. I think you should utilize the dragon arena to your background since it has alot of asian influence. Of course much of Cantha is asian influenced, so really pay attention to the area. Armor choice will be difficult for you, but it can be done!

Geisha Nugra, you are going to be Tinkerbell, your assassin jump and dance can easily replicate a fairies movement. With the right armor, you can definitely pull it off.

Lokii Dia, for you, we felt you would make the perfect Pocahontas. Your dark complexion is perfect, and your wild hair can pull off a very native appeal. For you, we feel that tribal area of Camp Hojanu would be a great place to start. The color of the atmosphere there is very "Colors of the wind". But of course there are MANY beautiful scenes that you can utilize from Pocahontas to achieve a good shot.

Lunamaria Cruz, your hair is very different, and outside of the norm, so for you, you are going to portray the goddess Hera from disney's Hercules. 15k Sunspear armor is very goddess like, and the beautiful monoments found in Elona are perfect for the greek goddess.

Mila Fox, who else can you be but Princess Jasmine on Aladdin? With Vabbian armor and the beautiful elonian/arabian architecture, you cannot go wrong!

Miss Melly, you're elegant and gentle character is perfect for Beauty And The Beast's Belle. House Zu Heltzer is perfect for the dark and gloomy castle that the beast has trapped Belle in.

Mojave Mango Juice, I remember your beautiful pink toned color 15k Canthan armor, absolutely perfect for Sleeping Beauty. Remember last cycle's final photoshoot with me and Jaden? Yawn/Sigh emotes are perfect to achieve that faint/sleepy/elegant look.

Sarah Eleanore, what does the ranger sit emote look like? To us on TNTM, we think it looks like a beautiful mermaid's tail. So we think you would make the perfect Ariel in The Little Mermaid. We know you can achieve a great screen if you can travel to Mehatni Keys (sp?) sit behind a rock in the water or even jump behind one of those bigger boulders and recreate that scene where Ariel jumps on that border and a big wave splashes up against her.

Szei Ren, for you, you have this tomboyish, yet regal appeal to your character. So for you, we felt that you would make a good disney's Anastasia. Of course you cannot fill the rich princess look, but you can certainly fill the poor, pauper look with some of the armor you have, or even a mix of them. The Vizunah Square area is a very runned down looking place which is great for the poor Anastasia look, but there are lots of slums area in cantha, so use everything to your advantage.

This assignment is all about details, from background, to armor, to look, and pose. Everything is essential to make this shoot successful in portraying your assigned characters!

Of course...what is one thing that every fairy tale princess have? A prince in shining armor, so that's right, ALL of you MUST have a male model present in your shoot. And not just any male model will do, pay attention to your assigned character's beau, what he would look like, what job would portray that male best, what armor should that male model have, etc.

This is a fun assignment, but can be difficult if you are not careful with the details! Research your characters if necessary!

After you have selected a screen that you would like to submit, please send it with the answers to the following questions...

1. Where did you take your picture?

2. What scene did you try to recreate if any?

3. Explain the picture.

After you are done, please send everything to me by May 04, 2007.

Good luck to everyone and have fun! We hope to see good things!

Nilene and co.

Foxeye · Apr 29, 2007, 05:24 AM // 05:24

Congratulations everyone! I thoroughly enjoyed the beautiful shots, and I'm sooooo tickled that TNTM's first dervish contestant is starting out so strong. Congrats Mila! ^_^

mojave mango juice · Apr 29, 2007, 05:27 AM // 05:27

Ooh, this sounds like fun

And thanks for the compliment on the armour ^_^

The Last Anthem · Apr 29, 2007, 05:38 AM // 05:38

uhoh o_o I don't even know who mulan is lol so this should be interesting*goes to google*..I already know who I'm going to force to be the male

btw it's Klauw not Klaus

Roguish Seraph · Apr 29, 2007, 05:42 AM // 05:42

Hehe by far my favorite assignment thus far! Although gonna be tough to do Pocohantas. o.o

Bring it on! >

Calluette Hanuette · Apr 29, 2007, 05:57 AM // 05:57

Losing picture...
I agree that everything looks a bit too safe, the pose looks a bit overused.. but why should it lose? When most november shots are like:
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Which means that these are the backgrounds that mainly represent november...which was the goal of this, right? Your origonal post was: November - Autumn Looks, this is what autumn looks like, isn't it? This is about beautiful pictures, and really...you say it isn't origonal but neither are most of the other pictures. April is the only really unique picture there. January/August I've only seen a few times... Everything else I've seen in every single magazine...<Especially December>

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So who gets eliminated? Someone who had a good idea but failed at showing their month completely, or someone who took a little too safe and got the message through but produced such a generic picture?

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to portray a month of the calendar.

So, the one eliminated was someone that showed the month but showed it like everyone else? While someone who didn't go by the topic gets let free to continue? >>; Isn't that a bit off to some of you? Also Sihaya Syme (N) - 2 Votes, was popularity a factor? And if it was, isn't modeling a "art form that expresses feeling and emotion or portrays a scene alligned with a topic in a photograph" rather then popularity?

I just wanted to express my opinion about the decisions, yes I know they are all final, but still...

<Note: I do not mean to bash some picures...>
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On a side-note: I hope you all do well with fairy-tales~ I love fairy-tales.

Though, its seems to be more disney movies rather then the actual tales...

<Caution - AAIW rant>
You said the Fairy Tale of Alice and Wonderland, and I found it to be odd with the decision<A personal favorite of mine>, though considering you probably didn't understand the stories or just watched the disney adaption<Which was actually rather off... No dutchess, or Pat in it. Not to mention the sudden appearance of Twiddledee and twiddledum, who appear in the looking glass rather hten her first adventure... Blah, blah, blah...> and never read the origonal Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, then I would understand your thoughts.. But just so you know, Alice actually, wasn't meant to portray a cute charactor in the story, but rather a pedantess who would not tolerate any silliness...<"Everything is so out-of-the-way down here, I am quite afraid I do not like it at all"> And the tea scene was meant to represent the madness of english society at the period of time and to teach children about it subconsiously, rather than just a funky and crazy scene. Please read the actual stories before you pick and not just decide by disney, but carry on... ~.~
<Caution End>

Good luck everyone and do well.

<Edit: Not trying to cause a fight or anything... >>; Just got like..2 hate-whispers... >>; >

Roguish Seraph · Apr 29, 2007, 06:12 AM // 06:12

I understand why you would get upset over Alice and Wonderland and the assignment not giving it justice. But I believe Nilene and her crew were going for the Disney versions. If you noticed most of the princesses have a Disney adaption(except Anastasia, which has a cartoon movie). But if it weren't the Disney versions there wont be any males for most of the girls.

Not trying to fight, just trying to clear it up.

And yes most of us perfer the original Alice in Wonderland story to the Disney version...but we want to be more..."sane" I guess lol.

Caleb Kane · Apr 29, 2007, 06:14 AM // 06:14

Good luck everyone! I'm surprised by these results...

LadyNilene · Apr 29, 2007, 06:19 AM // 06:19

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Originally Posted by Calluette Hanuette

The point was So, the one eliminated was someone that showed the month but showed it like everyone else? While someone who didn't go by the topic gets let free to continue? >>; Isn't that a bit off to some of you? Also Sihaya Syme (N) - 2 Votes, was popularity a factor? And if it was, isn't modeling a "art form that expresses feeling and emotion or portrays a scene alligned with a topic in a photograph" rather then popularity?

I just wanted to express my opinion about the decisions, yes I know they are all final, but still...

<Edit: Not trying to cause a fight or anything... >>; Just got like..2 hate-whispers... >>; >

Trust me when I say there is never a right or wrong in this competition. There is never an absolute choice. It will vary from person to person, and between us judges, we just felt that one was better than the other. There's alot that you guys dont see, one definite reason that made our decision sway to eliminating Sihaya Syme was that during the application rounds, we brought up her poses as an issue, and in the interview, I had discussed the issue of her poses in her application pictures. So believe me when I say you guys don't see 99.9% of what really goes on. We look at the big picture when we decide, how did they do last week? did they make the same mistakes? did they improve? We take alot into consideration when making our decision, and you guys don't see alot of it!

And of couse, everyone is entitled to their opinion! That's what make this so fun, everyone has their favorites, everyone has their opinions, and most of the time, they will differ!

Perynne · Apr 29, 2007, 06:19 AM // 06:19

Calluette, did you follow the last Cycle of TNTM? Then you might have noticed that sometimes things just go like this. A "safe" image with nothing extravagant in it could be just as dangerous as missing the point of the assignment while looking interesting. I do agree with you on some points, but the judges always pick two for elimination and sometimes even the better one could get eliminated. Like Nilene said, there's tons of stuff us forum readers don't know about the judging process, or their reasons for choosing what they did.

And you know what, you just did bash some pictures. I found you could have made your point with less rudeness. This contest isn't run exactly like the ones in magazines, since you have to remember that this is GW. Sihaya's pose was safe and overused because the same pose was used last Cycle many times. In contrast, December's pose was never used before - rather she had a really refreshing idea that had never come up in previous GW TNTM entries. Please check the previous Cycle before saying what is unoriginal and what is not.
GW is a game, which means it has some limitations to posing and mood, so it can't be judged the same way as a magazine picture.

And as for the fairytale aspect... well, this assignment is clearly focused on Disney fairytales, not on the original ones. I'm a fairytale fanatic myself and I found tons of parts that I could hold a long lecture about (not just Alice), but since this contest is meant to be in good fun and appeal to the majority, I think the current way is a wonderful way of having it. Disney is familiar to all so reference materials shouldn't be hard to find.

Lady Nilene, I love the idea of this assignment! It's going to be hard, but I can't wait to see what the contestants come up with.

Calluette Hanuette · Apr 29, 2007, 06:30 AM // 06:30

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Originally Posted by Perynne

Calluette, did you follow the last Cycle of TNTM? Then you might have noticed that sometimes things just go like this. A "safe" image with nothing extravagant in it could be just as dangerous as missing the point of the assignment while looking interesting. I do agree with you on some points, but the judges always pick two for elimination and sometimes even the better one could get eliminated. Like Nilene said, there's tons of stuff us forum readers don't know about the judging process, or their reasons for choosing what they did.

And you know what, you just did bash some pictures. I found you could have made your point with less rudeness. This contest isn't run exactly like the ones in magazines, since you have to remember that this is GW. Sihaya's pose was safe and overused because the same pose was used last Cycle many times. In contrast, December's pose was never used before - rather she had a really refreshing idea that had never come up in previous GW TNTM entries. Please check the previous Cycle before coming here and telling us what is unoriginal and what is not.
GW is a game, which means it has some limitations to posing and mood, so it can't be judged the same way as a magazine picture.

This is true, and I have already said I did not mean to bash. :. Still, just because something wasn't used in a previous contest of the game doesn't mean it is necessarily origonal and thus making it safe... :. Though I already said I knew that the pose she used was overused. And just to say, why should the secound cycle be so overly dependant on the first? I know its a game/guild wars, I just wanted to say what I thought using what was supplied to us. Without knowing what happens behind the scenes, no real opinion can be made, but I just wanted to show what I thought with what we were given.

xxSilhouette · Apr 29, 2007, 06:31 AM // 06:31

The fairy tale princess assignment was one of my favorite assignments in ANTM, So I'm totally looking forward to seeing what you ladies come up with!!

Perynne · Apr 29, 2007, 06:45 AM // 06:45

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Originally Posted by Calluette Hanuette

This is true, and I have already said I did not mean to bash. :. Still, just because something wasn't used in a previous contest of the game doesn't mean it is necessarily origonal and thus making it safe... :. Though I already said I knew that the pose she used was overused. And just to say, why should the secound cycle be so overly dependant on the first? I know its a game/guild wars, I just wanted to say what I thought using what was supplied to us. Without knowing what happens behind the scenes, no real opinion can be made, but I just wanted to show what I thought with what we were given.

This Cycle isn't dependent on the previous Cycle, but a model can learn a lot about what works and what doesn't by looking at previous contests and images. If I remember correctly, the judges weren't impressed by that scratch pose last Cycle either, so chances are they wouldn't be impressed by it this time either.
You do have a point though, that just because something has not been done before, doesn't make it good. It could be original, but original is not always good-looking. That's when other considerations usually come into play, like lighting, background, mood, etc. And yeah, it's hard for us forum people to form opinions because we don't know what happens behind the scenes.

I was a contestant last Cycle (made it to top three) and there was lots of drama back then too. I had some strong opinions about some results that caused a bit of an uproar but it's only normal for a contest to get a bit heated. The judges are only human after all with opinions of their own.

Geishe · Apr 29, 2007, 07:09 AM // 07:09

YAY MILA!!! *High Five

Welcome to the 1st Week MOTW club! Keep up the good work and you'll be in the finale in no time.

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Originally Posted by Calluette Hanuette

Though I already said I knew that the pose she used was overused. And just to say, why should the secound cycle be so overly dependant on the first?

That's funny! Why should we compare absurdist theatre to poor theatre? Even though they are contemporary of one another, they are essentially opposites of the same line. They are compared upon one another to identify the significance and independence of each notion.

On a less serious note, you may say the same for this MUCH less significant competition. They are both competitions based in the same game. However, if you don't compare the two cycles, and don't base them on one another, nothing new or groundbreaking will come out of future cycles. Jaden last cycle was known for her/his tremendous talents at capturing action shots. It was truly individual. If we see something along those lines this cycle, then the viewer's will sorely feel that history is repeating itself. However, if ONE contestant here does something never seen before, that will make this cycle just that more memorable. It's a process of growth to learn from the past and make something new.

GO MILA GO !

Calluette Hanuette · Apr 29, 2007, 07:33 AM // 07:33

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Originally Posted by Geishe

That's funny! Why should we compare absurdist theatre to poor theatre? Even though they are contemporary of one another, they are essentially opposites of the same line. They are compared upon one another to identify the significance and independence of each notion.

On a less serious note, you may say the same for this MUCH less significant competition. They are both competitions based in the same game. However, if you don't compare the two cycles, and don't base them on one another, nothing new or groundbreaking will come out of future cycles. Jaden last cycle was known for her/his tremendous talents at capturing action shots. It was truly individual. If we see something along those lines this cycle, then the viewer's will sorely feel that history is repeating itself. However, if ONE contestant here does something never seen before, that will make this cycle just that more memorable. It's a process of growth to learn from the past and make something new.

But to live and forget is to continue on with the new and to lose the old. And just because two things are simular does not mean that they should be compared. Comical Drama and scatological humor are not usually compared, but they are so simular they are even in the same genre of humor. No two people are ever alike, so why compare the beautiful shots of the assassin to some of the shots we have here? Action shots and nature shots are not nearly the same thing, yet both are things of beauty, no? If you compare them too much, will they not eventually become one-to-one? If you see something amazing, but you see that is amazing and you deduct its wonder because someone did something simular, then is it still not amazing? And if so, why compare it if you just make it something less then what it was?

Sentao Nugra · Apr 29, 2007, 07:37 AM // 07:37

Crud... nobody I know has a Male Mesmer!

If anyone here has a Male Mesmer that looks like this
and has completed a portion of Factions up to Naphui Quarter
and would like to participate in Photo Shoot PM me here on Guru!

Sarah Eleanore · Apr 29, 2007, 07:49 AM // 07:49

Congratulations Mila ^^! You deserved it!
Sihaya Syme, you can still continue making pictures for the assignments and stuff, you should

! I also love your necro!
Hope I'll do better in the future too..

EDIT: Just saw there was another page O.O! Oooh fairytales! I hope my friend's got a male and is willing to do as I command ;p! Gonna be loads of fun

!!

Daenara · Apr 29, 2007, 08:18 AM // 08:18

Congratulations Mila!

<3 That shot was lovely.

Alice in Wonderland? Oh my goodness, this is going to be a tricky one. I'll have to get searching I guess.Sounds like alot of fun!

Ember010 · Apr 29, 2007, 08:47 AM // 08:47

Wow! Thankyou for all the nice comments! ^^ I'm over the mooon!

This assignment is going to be awesome! Tricky, but I'm a big sucker for Disney movies so this is a great fun one!

Edit: ROFL! Just saw your comments Geishe!! Makes me feel like we're racing! *ruuuun*

Sihaya Syme · Apr 29, 2007, 09:00 AM // 09:00

Caluette, thanks for your support! I really appreciate it. But it's true that the Lady talked to me about the lack of poses in my application pics, and I told her I intended to work on that.

I took dozens of pictures, one of them this one:

I didn't pick this because it wasn't November enough for me... (I scaled it down, she's bigger in the original but I don't want to break thread rules xD) Perhaps I should have picked this, but it's too late to wonder about that.
When I got my evaluation yesterday, I fully expected to be left out, since I hadn't been able to mend my weak spot.

Someone had to lose, and it's no shame coming behind any of these beautiful women.

Congratulations Mila, and all the others. You did great. I still think I did great too, that shot has been my background for a week and I'm in love with how it looks. So don't feel bad about me! I'll be here, posting my version of the assignments, and supporting the rest of you! Feel free to PM me at any time if you need someone to talk to!

Love to you all,
Sihaya

P.S. Lady Nilene, is it okay if I email you to ask why you guys decided to make me one of the final twelve? I'm curious as to what it was that gave me the chance to be in