Feb 09, 2006, 06:11 PM // 18:11
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Capital Of The Highlands
Guild: XoO
Profession: W/N
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doesnt seem to be working. any chance of posting the build and steps? >>
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Feb 09, 2006, 07:49 PM // 19:49
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#4
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Ascalonian Squire
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Good movie. I bring watchful spirt and Balthazar's spirit in addition to mending and essence bond. Energy is never an issue and you dont even need breeze most of the time.
1 question... how do you deal with the distrupting chops from the mountain trolls? Only about half of my troll runs are succesful because sometimes one of my critical skills is disrupted.
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Feb 09, 2006, 09:26 PM // 21:26
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#5
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Ascalonian Squire
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i use balthazars spirit only in the underworld for solo farming, because 3 aatxe do not make enough damage for essence bond. for the others im fine with essence bond only.
against the mountain trolls i have no real trick. be quick, always go with 33hp (not 55) and watch for their rythm - they all beat at the same time, cast after they hit you, thats how i do it. with 55 hp i almost always died, but with 33hp its easy.
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Feb 12, 2006, 08:57 PM // 20:57
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#6
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Virginia born in Cebu
Guild: Jelly Toast[jT]
Profession: W/
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how do you get down to 33 hp?
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Feb 12, 2006, 10:34 PM // 22:34
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#7
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Germany
Guild: Phantom Commando
Profession: N/
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Get a DP and find yourself an -20 HP icon..
That will get your HP to 33 HP if I am correct..
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Feb 12, 2006, 11:45 PM // 23:45
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#8
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: Vile Of Faith [NOVA]
Profession: Mo/Me
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No, dp and a no health loss weapon = 33hp
a -20 would work even better tho, giving you 13 health
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Feb 13, 2006, 12:12 AM // 00:12
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#9
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: Vile Of Faith [NOVA]
Profession: Mo/Me
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I just watched it,
There are a few things u could/should change:
1. Bring essence bond
2. For griffons and hydras, Aura of restoration will allow you to agro more and not worry about the scorpion thingies as u get a full heal every time u cast, so if on the rare occasion they inturupt breeze then u can still live by spamming spells (FYI they will never interupt PS). This also allows u to take out orison as ur effectively healing urself with every cast.
3. The recharge on Inferno makes it a bit useless, take meteor shower instead. It can only be cast once per pull (recharge is slow) but it does about 300 damage, which is half health for most targets. The exhaustion is not a problem because of your points in energy storage.
For use in UW take an SS necro (you do the monks job). Put Obsidian flesh and stone daggers on ur bar. Obsidian is a better version of spellbreaker (lasts longer) and stone daggers allows u to kill the nightmares easily.
Thats my input for this thread,
-THE M-
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Feb 13, 2006, 12:13 AM // 00:13
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#10
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Ontario, Canada
Profession: W/
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if u r 55hp and u die ur hp is at 1
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Feb 13, 2006, 05:48 AM // 05:48
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#11
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Denmark
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xx Devour Xx
if u r 55hp and u die ur hp is at 1
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not if you take off the -50 hp item when you get ressed.
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Feb 13, 2006, 01:58 PM // 13:58
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#12
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Ascalonian Squire
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@Mentalmdc:
1. watch closely, i do have essence bond but no balthasars spirit as i dont need it in the regions shown in the movie (my energy is almost always about 50%)
2. i had the aura some times whith me, but found it a bit useless. against the scorpions, i just run away with Armor of Mist - it is more save than trying to fight them. as soon as i start running 33% faster they loose interest and i can go on with the griffons.
well, thats not entirely true. As you see in the video, the hydras did that alot. it has only 1 second casting time, but if the meteor hits me right in that second im done... not sure about the scorpions, i cant remember if they ever did interrupt my PS.
3. i agree, infernos' 20 sec recharge is a bit useless but it helps. i dare not to use meteorshower, not even fireball. i used to take fireball instead of inferno, but its 2 second casting time brought me in some trouble. here is how: i cast fireball, than my PS starts to blink - before fireball is casted my PS is gone and im dead. for i usually tank a lot of creatures, i dont have a chance to make a single step to interrupt the casting of fireball. infernos casting time is only 3/4 of a sec. hence, i took it with me as a "filler".
for the UW yes, its quite non-sense to go solo with an E/Mo - it took me 20 mins to kill only 3 Aatxe. now i only go to the UW with a SS as you said - but completely skilled on monk, not single ele spell. the SS does an enormous amount of damage, i only concentrate on staying alive.
well, different people, different styles - everyone tries what fits best for him
oh and yes, the 33HP i get after 15%dp and taking away the cestus.
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Feb 14, 2006, 02:04 AM // 02:04
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#13
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I Didn't Do It
Join Date: Jul 2005
Profession: Mo/
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I'm not getting an actualy Video. Just odd Sounding Music, fromt he filefactory place
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Feb 14, 2006, 06:37 AM // 06:37
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#15
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I Didn't Do It
Join Date: Jul 2005
Profession: Mo/
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Ive got it installed.
EDIT: Fixed it.
Last edited by Stalker Haras; Feb 14, 2006 at 06:56 AM // 06:56..
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Feb 14, 2006, 09:09 AM // 09:09
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#16
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: Vile Of Faith [NOVA]
Profession: Mo/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyrdio
@Mentalmdc:
1. watch closely, i do have essence bond but no balthasars spirit as i dont need it in the regions shown in the movie (my energy is almost always about 50%)
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Sorry my mistake.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyrdio
2. i had the aura some times whith me, but found it a bit useless. against the scorpions, i just run away with Armor of Mist - it is more save than trying to fight them. as soon as i start running 33% faster they loose interest and i can go on with the griffons.
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I understand what your saying, but why bring orison when aura does a better job. You have orison in your skill bar and you just presented an argument as to why you dont need it. IMO if you feel you dont need to use aura/orison then remove it and add another attack.
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Originally Posted by Cyrdio
This quote was in response to me saying the PS is never interupted
well, thats not entirely true. As you see in the video, the hydras did that alot. it has only 1 second casting time, but if the meteor hits me right in that second im done... not sure about the scorpions, i cant remember if they ever did interrupt my PS.
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It is very unlikely that PS was interupted as it has a 1/4 second cast not 1 second. The devourers only interrput my breeze or flame burst (i think thats the name, i only normally look at the pics) if i cast PS, Breeze, Flame with no gaps in between as the shots from the devourer take about 1 second to reach me. Aura is so effective because it allows you to stay alive if breeze is interupted.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyrdio
3. i agree, infernos' 20 sec recharge is a bit useless but it helps. i dare not to use meteorshower, not even fireball. i used to take fireball instead of inferno, but its 2 second casting time brought me in some trouble. here is how: i cast fireball, than my PS starts to blink - before fireball is casted my PS is gone and im dead. for i usually tank a lot of creatures, i dont have a chance to make a single step to interrupt the casting of fireball. infernos casting time is only 3/4 of a sec. hence, i took it with me as a "filler".
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Try MS with griffons if not anything else, make sure you have no devourers on you, cast PS, Breeze, then MS in quick succession, you will have ample time to throw in another flame burst and i normally cast the aura that i forgot to put on earlier at this point, if i get a fast recharge from flame burst i still have time to cast that again before PS starts to flash, however at this point i have no breeze on me but can stay alive as i am spamming spells (due to aura), another flame burst and all enemies are useuall dead at this point.
BTW i use a kindlerock (after purposely dying) with a 15% FFS and a 18% enchanting mod.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyrdio
for the UW yes, its quite non-sense to go solo with an E/Mo - it took me 20 mins to kill only 3 Aatxe. now i only go to the UW with a SS as you said - but completely skilled on monk, not single ele spell. the SS does an enormous amount of damage, i only concentrate on staying alive.
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Why not take advantage of ur superior runes while in the underworld and go 15 earth, 8 heal, 10 prot, rest in energy storage. Use obsidian flesh instead of SB; BTW obsidian lasts longer . Aura means you dont have to use breeze while fighting aataxes (even while bleeding) which gives you some free time to use obsidian flame, to help with the damage dealing.
This is just how i farm, as you said, each to their own (However, i do still believe that my build is more effective. Try it and see what you think)
Thanks,
-THE M-
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Feb 14, 2006, 01:16 PM // 13:16
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#17
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Ascalonian Squire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mentalmdc
I understand what your saying, but why bring orison when aura does a better job. You have orison in your skill bar and you just presented an argument as to why you dont need it. IMO if you feel you dont need to use aura/orison then remove it and add another attack.
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hmm i never thought about that - im using orison only if my breeze was interrupted. but yeah, instead i could use flame burst and heal myself while doing damage.. i'll try that
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mentalmdc
It is very unlikely that PS was interupted as it has a 1/4 second cast not 1 second.
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sorry my bad. but then, the hydras did interrupt my PS more than once, also did the mountain trolls. as i said, im not sure about the devourers.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mentalmdc
BTW i use a kindlerock (after purposely dying) with a 15% FFS and a 18% enchanting mod.
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i use the same (the only true fire staff from my point of view) but without any additional mods. how did you apply them? i was thinking that its not possible to apply any mods to green (unique) items. my kindlerock is the original one.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mentalmdc
Why not take advantage of ur superior runes while in the underworld and go 15 earth, 8 heal, 10 prot, rest in energy storage.
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its pretty much the same i have, only with fire. (fire 14, heal 9, prot 8 IIRC).
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mentalmdc
Use obsidian flesh instead of SB; BTW obsidian lasts longer . Aura means you dont have to use breeze while fighting aataxes (even while bleeding) which gives you some free time to use obsidian flame, to help with the damage dealing.
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how come i did not notice obsidian flesh?? i was always looking for something i could use instead of spell breaker but never considered obsidian flesh... sometimes i am really weird, lol. how do you deal with energy exhaustion when using obsidian flame, isnt that a bit dangerous?
how ever, thanks for the many hints you gave me. some of them i will try out for sure for they certainly make sense to me
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Feb 14, 2006, 02:07 PM // 14:07
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#18
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Academy Page
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: cali
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The problem I find with hydras and PS is not that they interrupt it, but that their meteors have me on my ass when I'm trying to cast it >.<
And yes, rockshots and trolls have been known to interrupt PS. However, this only happens when you're linking skills really quickly, because if they're savage shot is late, on your cast before, there's a chance that it will interrupt PS
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Feb 14, 2006, 02:45 PM // 14:45
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#19
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Ascalonian Squire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by awoeonip
The problem I find with hydras and PS is not that they interrupt it, but that their meteors have me on my ass when I'm trying to cast it
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that's what i mean by being interrupted
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