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Messy · Jun 02, 2007, 11:58 PM // 23:58

You really should post a price if you are going to do commissions

And again, thanks for the really cute picture you made, I really really liked it

greyf0x_f0x · Jun 03, 2007, 01:42 AM // 01:42

Nice work! Reminds me of old C64/Amiga loading screens ^^ Pixel art ftw!

As far as commissions, prices, and waiting lists go, I give you this advice: worry about the image first, and everything else second. If you think it will be fun to do, and will look good - draw it - worry about the price, and the persons place in the queue etc later. There's a good reason I stopped having a chronological queue system in my commissions, they are not condusive of artistic inspiration! Once you've agreed to such a system, it will only lead to disapointment for a large majority of people, because demand for commissions outstrips even the speediest artist, and as an artist, you are all-but forced to work on any and all works (even if they dont interest you) simply by virtue of the fact that the person got their "flag" in the queue at a particular time.

It does actually surprise me that people are being scolded for showing an interest in newer artists, and trying to encourage them to produce work by requesting commissions. Personally, I take the fact that people are wanting to pay for my work as a compliment, not an insult O_o

The simplest solution to the "dibs on a commission" style posts, would just be for all us art hos to start their own "I Want Commissions" or "My Commissioned Pictures" threads and have the first page contain character pictures and info. Then, whenever posting in a new art thread, you could simply say somthing like: "Oh, and if you ever want to do commissions, I'd be interested (link to my commission request thread)" or somthing of the sort. That way, you are letting the person know that you appreciate their work, and should they decide they want to do commissions, they know where to find you.

Scorpion Serenity · Jun 03, 2007, 01:49 AM // 01:49

:P Keep up the good work.

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http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10163941

Rainbird · Jun 03, 2007, 11:23 AM // 11:23

I think that the best thing a person can do if they are interested to find out if an artist does commissions or not is as simple as this:
Ask if he/she does commissions, then the artist can say yes/no, and once it is completely clear that the artist is doing commissions, then people can get in line or whatever the artist decides should be done.
The whole camp/flag system is a pain in the ass, because even if the artist hasn't said yes to do commissions you might still end up number 7 in the line even though you are the first person to see the response.
But if you want an honest chance of getting in front of the line you need to a) be really lucky and see a thread that says "Doing commissions", and be the first to respond in it, or b) plant your flag before everyone else in a thread where you have no idea whether commissions are being taken or not.

Basically, what my suggestion to fix the problem is, is to somehow make the flag-system unused, or make it useless. Artists could say: "I'm not taking commissions from people who just flag. Once I say I'll take commissions, I'll do the requests as they come" just for an example.

I'm really sorry that your thread got turned into an argument, it's a real shame.

On-topic: I love your style, gonna get some pictures up for my turn soon, you're doing real good

EDIT: Okay, I'd like you to draw my warrior, Kuno Mosh.

He is a proud warrior who puts all his energy and focus into the task at hand.
And he's all yours now :P

Milennin · Jun 04, 2007, 01:48 PM // 13:48

Scorpion, your art is also very nice.;D

I finished Kenichiukiya's drawing. Maybe not what you had hoped for but I think it's pretty cool.=D

I'll do yours next, Rainbird.=P
Added rules for commissions to my first post, so read if you want a commission from me in the future.=P

Oh yeah, and could a Moderator remove some posts in this thread. I probably won't have to say which ones I'd like to have deleted.XD

kenichiukiya · Jun 04, 2007, 01:57 PM // 13:57

OMGOMGOMGOMG I totally love it!!!~ Thanks a lot Milennin!! BTW can send me full res?? =P

Milennin · Jun 04, 2007, 02:08 PM // 14:08

That is full res. Quality might look bad because it's made in MS Paint.XD

Rainbird · Jun 04, 2007, 02:56 PM // 14:56

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Originally Posted by Milennin

That is full res. Quality might look bad because it's made in MS Paint.XD

You do this in Paint?! OMFG...
Your art just got thát much more impressive

Torikae · Jun 04, 2007, 03:21 PM // 15:21

Milennin, I love your pictures so far - your style has so much character

It's great to see you doing such good things with Paint as well - I love Paint and find it sad that people seem to think it's not good for anything

I'll be checking back for more - keep it up!

GenobeeX · Jun 04, 2007, 04:06 PM // 16:06

If you get the chance would you please do a drawing of my favorite and first charater Genobee Xavior. I'm rather interested to see how a drawing primeval would turn out and i like your style. I provided a bathazar statue for background but you can use what you like.

Heres an old combo of mine which you could do instead. Whatever sparks your interest!(sorry bout missing perspectives

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Lynxius · Jun 04, 2007, 05:10 PM // 17:10

The Ritualist one is genious!

I actually loled IRL
I like the little details you added, like the little cloud behind the fleeing explorer it gives it a sense of movement.

And MS Paint? dude you deserve a medal

Warrior Of The Toon · Jun 04, 2007, 05:16 PM // 17:16

Why do people think MSP is so bad? It's the best small scale pixel work tool I've ever used, but it could do with a layer system...

jademonkeyx88 · Jun 04, 2007, 05:27 PM // 17:27

That ritualist one is too awesome. You win the internet.
The warrior dance emote in the hieroglyphics is a nice touch.

Messy · Jun 04, 2007, 10:27 PM // 22:27

That is absolutely ADORABLE!!!

I'm still laughing, great sense of humor!!! Love it!!

keep up the great work.

jrk247 · Jun 06, 2007, 09:15 AM // 09:15

Well seeings how you are now doing commissions, I'd like one.

I don't care what you do. Something funny or something serious w/e you feel like drawing. I'd like you to draw my necro The Dead Dude. Here are some pics of him:

http://img79.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tddc2xi5.jpg

Invertation · Jun 06, 2007, 11:46 AM // 11:46

I have to ask, about how long does it take you for these pieces. I know MSP is a major pain to work with, especially the scale of effort you have put into these pieces.

Necrotic · Jun 06, 2007, 12:41 PM // 12:41

Well Milennin...now I understand your comment about PNG format. LOL ... you do the art in MSPaint! Thats really amazing! I was surprised at your comment at first because PNG only supports 24 bit color in RGB format....unlike JPEG which of course supports 32 bit color in both RGB and CYMK. Also JPEG can be made smaller if neccessary or almost no compression at all. If ya decide you wanna give real painting programs a shot...just check out Artweaver, the GIMP or Open Canvas. The first two are free to download as is the early version of oC....but finding one of the early versions is the hard part.

Warrior Of The Toon · Jun 06, 2007, 09:15 PM // 21:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Necrotic

Well Milennin...now I understand your comment about PNG format. LOL ... you do the art in MSPaint! Thats really amazing! I was surprised at your comment at first because PNG only supports 24 bit color in RGB format....unlike JPEG which of course supports 32 bit color in both RGB and CYMK. Also JPEG can be made smaller if neccessary or almost no compression at all. If ya decide you wanna give real painting programs a shot...just check out Artweaver, the GIMP or Open Canvas. The first two are free to download as is the early version of oC....but finding one of the early versions is the hard part.

I hope you don't me answering this Mil =P He already has a 'real painting' program, Photoshop CS2 (let's say I was involved in him getting it =P). As for formats I'm pretty sure he bmps and then uses a GIF animator for transparency, as it saves a lot of time and memory compared to waiting to PS to start up... (and of course transparent PNGs haven't been supported by IE for very long).

PS - Personally I'm a JPG & PNG man =P

Milennin · Jun 07, 2007, 08:01 AM // 08:01

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Originally Posted by Invertation

I have to ask, about how long does it take you for these pieces. I know MSP is a major pain to work with, especially the scale of effort you have put into these pieces.

Line work takes about one hour I think. Colouring usually takes around 1-2 hours, but it depends on how many layers of shading I'm using and how much detail I have to add.=P
Backgrounds add another 1-2 hours, also depends a lot on how much detail I add to it.
And yeah, I have Photoshop CS2, but I'm so bad with it and it takes much more time for me to colour with it (tried it a few times).XP

Anyway, finished Rainbird's character. And yes, I know it took a while, but I started saving for an Elemental Sword, so payment is very much appreciated.XP

Mistical miss · Jun 07, 2007, 08:18 AM // 08:18

erm, sweet details on that one!

I do think the right eye (for the viewer) should look more to the right or the left eye more to the left ^^