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Sab · Jun 09, 2008, 10:40 PM // 22:40

So I decided to do a video of a quick painting if anybody's interested. It's mainly a test to see what goes into the process of recording, editing and uploading. This video is actually pretty tedious to watch near the end, I'll make the next video less jumpy (20fps and less panning/flipping). Any comments/suggestions are welcome =]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psrtKiSKelU

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcgxxuJh3YI

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWPn6OTjIKc

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ono6YakUXXM

DanielSpiritkeeper · Jun 09, 2008, 10:52 PM // 22:52

love it.

i like watching time lapse paintings and drawings on youtube. by the way do you plan on adding color or just leaving it as it is?

[Morkai] · Jun 09, 2008, 10:58 PM // 22:58

Wow..that's pretty awesome tbh.

10/10 from me

Widowmaker · Jun 09, 2008, 11:01 PM // 23:01

The end result was enough to know watching the video was worth it. I love watching these things so it was all good to me.

I think the only thing to say is:

More! Please.

And does this mean your avatar is your own work?

Haldibarn · Jun 09, 2008, 11:17 PM // 23:17

Its awesome indeed, nice work!

Asplode · Jun 10, 2008, 01:15 AM // 01:15

Wonderful, though if you're looking for critique, the calf on the leg visible appears a wee bit wide, despite the compression. Also, the angle of the descending thigh relative to the hidden object the subject is straddling appears a bit awkward when given the ambiguous shadow cast over said object. It appears to have a bit of a corner about 2/3'rds the way up the thigh where the shadow pinches inwards, which very slightly hurts the composition. The nose appears a bit wide around the bridge and the crest of the nostrils appear slightly thick. Probably just stylistic elements though, tbh.

Overall excellent work, looking forward to future pieces ^_^

Sjeng · Jun 10, 2008, 05:20 AM // 05:20

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Originally Posted by Widowmaker

And does this mean your avatar is your own work?

That's Real Mayer from the anime Ergo Proxy ^^ just finished watching it

RhanoctJocosa · Jun 10, 2008, 06:03 AM // 06:03

ahhhh.. why are you so good

eeks · Jun 10, 2008, 06:53 AM // 06:53

The video was slightly disorienting, but it was great watching your technique. Fantastic work~

Mike_version2 · Jun 10, 2008, 08:41 AM // 08:41

Very nice, as usual

Widowmaker · Jun 10, 2008, 01:21 PM // 13:21

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Originally Posted by Sjeng

That's Real Mayer from the anime Ergo Proxy ^^ just finished watching it

I see, thanks for the info.

Tatile · Jun 10, 2008, 01:45 PM // 13:45

Stunning, are you self taught? It's interesting to see how you manipulated the positionings in the picutre and also to see how flipping helps to draw different parts of the image.

lakatz · Jun 10, 2008, 02:36 PM // 14:36

What a pleasant surprise to see you're multi-talented. I already admire your ability to put game skills together. I'm very impressed. What program were you using? What kind of tablet did you use? I'd love to know the tools you used for the shading... like the shadows on the floor for instance.

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Originally Posted by Asplode

Wonderful, though if you're looking for critique, the calf on the leg visible appears a wee bit wide, despite the compression. Also, the angle of the descending thigh relative to the hidden object the subject is straddling appears a bit awkward when given the ambiguous shadow cast over said object. It appears to have a bit of a corner about 2/3'rds the way up the thigh where the shadow pinches inwards, which very slightly hurts the composition. The nose appears a bit wide around the bridge and the crest of the nostrils appear slightly thick. Probably just stylistic elements though, tbh.

Overall excellent work, looking forward to future pieces ^_^

I disagree with your criticism. I think art is way too subjective to make criticisms about physical features. For instance, looking at your ele (work in progress) I perceive the chin as too pointy. But then I know that's just my subjective view.

I don't perceive the nose as 'too' broad nor the calves 'too' big in Sab's painting. They could be the actual size and shape of the model's features. Actually, my calves (built from swimming) are about that size... just more cut up.

Besides all that, 'perfection' is antithetical to artistic expression. Thankfully, this artist didn't strive for perfect.

Saraphim · Jun 10, 2008, 02:48 PM // 14:48

Gorgeous, imo. Her expression and body language are just excellent.

Sab, have you ever used the freeware version of Open Canvas? It's really basic and only has a couple of brushes, and you can only draw at 72 dpi.. but it does have layers with additive and subtractive and a marvellous playback feature that captures everything you do as an event file that you can play back.

Anyone else who has the programme can play it back too. You can also do collaborative drawings on a shared network on the same page.. which can be a little chaotic to say the least.

^ just thought I'd big it up as it's a good sketching tool.

Sab · Jun 10, 2008, 07:23 PM // 19:23

Thanks to everyone for all the comments =]

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Originally Posted by Asplode

Wonderful, though if you're looking for critique, the calf on the leg visible appears a wee bit wide, despite the compression. Also, the angle of the descending thigh relative to the hidden object the subject is straddling appears a bit awkward when given the ambiguous shadow cast over said object. It appears to have a bit of a corner about 2/3'rds the way up the thigh where the shadow pinches inwards, which very slightly hurts the composition. The nose appears a bit wide around the bridge and the crest of the nostrils appear slightly thick. Probably just stylistic elements though, tbh.

Overall excellent work, looking forward to future pieces ^_^

I definitely see what you're saying, and looking back at it, there's a billion things like that I'd change.

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Originally Posted by Tatile

Stunning, are you self taught? It's interesting to see how you manipulated the positionings in the picutre and also to see how flipping helps to draw different parts of the image.

I'm self taught in that I watch videos and tutorials from others (that's where I picked up the flipping trick).

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Originally Posted by lakatz

What a pleasant surprise to see you're multi-talented. I already admire your ability to put game skills together. I'm very impressed. What program were you using? What kind of tablet did you use? I'd love to know the tools you used for the shading... like the shadows on the floor for instance.

I use Photoshop CS, Intuos3 6x8 Tablet. I don't use that many brushes when I'm doing B&W: a thin chalk brush for linework, a fat chalk brush + soft round brush for shading.

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Originally Posted by Saraphim

Gorgeous, imo. Her expression and body language are just excellent.

Sab, have you ever used the freeware version of Open Canvas? It's really basic and only has a couple of brushes, and you can only draw at 72 dpi.. but it does have layers with additive and subtractive and a marvellous playback feature that captures everything you do as an event file that you can play back.

I had a look and it sounds pretty neat, gonna give it a try later on.

Widowmaker · Jun 10, 2008, 09:04 PM // 21:04

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Originally Posted by lakatz

I think art is way too subjective to make criticisms about physical features.

That was my first thought as well.

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Originally Posted by Sab

I definitely see what you're saying, and looking back at it, there's a billion things like that I'd change.

Show me an artist who doesn't think that about five minutes after they finish something.

Oogami · Jun 11, 2008, 12:36 AM // 00:36

Wuahhh ... seriously awesome ... I enjoyed watching this allot

Very nice art

great pose and nice expression.

lakatz · Jun 11, 2008, 01:26 AM // 01:26

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Originally Posted by Widowmaker

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Originally Posted by Sab

I definitely see what you're saying, and looking back at it, there's a billion things like that I'd change.

...Show me an artist who doesn't think that about five minutes after they finish something.

The artist whose drawing is linked to in my first post was especially hard on himself. He was never 'there' in his own estimation. He was Vincent van Gogh

Asplode · Jun 11, 2008, 02:23 AM // 02:23

Ah I'm not trying to be negative, it's just a constructive thing, really. Please don't perceive me to be attacking, that's definitely not what I'm going for, I really love the piece. What kind of a tablet do you use (edit: oh nvm) and do you have any comments about its maintenance or durability btw? I've been shopping around and haven't really had much insight on these aspects and was curious about it >_>

Saraphim · Jun 11, 2008, 08:09 AM // 08:09

If you want a tablet, there are serviceable cheap ones on the market, such as Trust. If you want a good one. Get a Wacom, they are easily the best out there, tablets are their only product so they've refined it to perfection. I had my original Intuos (back when they were serial connectors) for 7 years and I only got rid of it to replace it with an Intuos 3.

The one Sab mentions is ideal, it's small and doesn't get in the way. The bigger they are the more strain it is on your drawing hand / arm and movement is more natural on a smaller one. I'm using the same tablet with a 24 inch widescreen monitor and it's perfect. The only reason I may replace this one is that I have the hots for the new 12 inch Wacom cintiq so I can cart it around like a sketchbook with my laptop (price is a bit steep on that though).